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  • 125TDI tuning??

    Hey!

    I was wondering if anybody has any clue on the availability/price/performance of stage 1 tunes in Aus... As well as the requirements for a diesel to hit stage 2; and subsequently - the availability/price of stage 2 tunes in Aus.

    I want to get my Octy vRS TDI as quick as possible before I get off my P's - to make a statement about NSW p-plate laws, if nothing else.
    Its illegal for anyone with a provisional licence to drive anything >petrol< with forced induction or more than 6 cyl... Which means I could hop straight in a Landcruiser 200 with the twin-turbo V8D... Or an Audi A5 3.0TDI, etc... Audi SQ5 TDI, Audi Q7 V12 TDI... Would you like those in the hands of a p-plater? No? Me either!

    I've already got the Carbonio intake, and just awaiting funds and a tip I like before the 3" exhaust gets done.

    I wouldn't mind keeping the DPF in the system, until such a time as its vital to remove it.

    Any hints/tips??

    Cheers,
    -Matt!
    2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
    1990 Mk1 Cabrio. 1.9 IDI w/ 18PSI.
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    Not including hers...

  • #2
    Plenty of suppliers of diesel tunes, try the usual petrol tuning companies.

    Forget the exhaust, go for a tune first - best bang for buck performance mod.
    MKV Golf 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline. Just nice.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
      Hey!

      I was wondering if anybody has any clue on the availability/price/performance of stage 1 tunes in Aus... As well as the requirements for a diesel to hit stage 2; and subsequently - the availability/price of stage 2 tunes in Aus.

      I want to get my Octy vRS TDI as quick as possible before I get off my P's - to make a statement about NSW p-plate laws, if nothing else.
      Its illegal for anyone with a provisional licence to drive anything >petrol< with forced induction or more than 6 cyl... Which means I could hop straight in a Landcruiser 200 with the twin-turbo V8D... Or an Audi A5 3.0TDI, etc... Audi SQ5 TDI, Audi Q7 V12 TDI... Would you like those in the hands of a p-plater? No? Me either!

      I've already got the Carbonio intake, and just awaiting funds and a tip I like before the 3" exhaust gets done.

      I wouldn't mind keeping the DPF in the system, until such a time as its vital to remove it.

      Any hints/tips??

      Cheers,
      -Matt!
      Just wondering if you are aware that any modification to the car as a P-Plater is illegal?

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      • #4
        Varies fro state to state.
        '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
        '01 Beetle 2.0

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        • #5
          I'm sure that, if you steer the situation enough and push the right buttons, many car mods could be outlawed or requiring certification. The law can be adjusted the way the authorities want and when it comes to P platers and the safety on our roads with a minmum of fuss.
          Performance Tunes from $850
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          • #6
            Originally posted by vraptor View Post
            Just wondering if you are aware that any modification to the car as a P-Plater is illegal?
            I am in Victoria as well as you, it is not illegal for a P Plater to modify there vehicle as long as it stays within the law.

            i know probably less than 10 P platers that haven't modified anything on there car. they only time they get in any strife is when the mod is illegal... EG Too low, too low ect
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            • #7
              Originally posted by lhennessy View Post
              I am in Victoria as well as you, it is not illegal for a P Plater to modify there vehicle as long as it stays within the law.

              i know probably less than 10 P platers that haven't modified anything on there car. they only time they get in any strife is when the mod is illegal... EG Too low, too low ect
              from here: P plates & probationary prohibited vehicles : VicRoads

              "has an engine that has been modified to increase the vehicle's performance (other than a modification made by the manufacturer in the course of the manufacture of the vehicle"

              Means you could get away with suspension and cosmetics, but anything past that (intake, exhaust, tune) are considered illegal.
              Mind you i couldn't care less, was just pointing out as you were trying to prove the law wrong.

              I am all for these mods

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              • #8
                125TDI tuning??

                Hmm thought you could have 1 "performance" mod :/

                Thanks for that good too know
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                • #9
                  What about all the people who claim an intake has no performance benefit?

                  Must admit the laws can be funny things, while looking into the lowering limit in SA the other day I discovered coil overs were actually only legal with engineering certification.. can't imagine that happening in more than 1% of cases!

                  Re the OP, don't know Mysticality personally but from other threads it sounds like he covers a ton of miles each year and is probably a better driver than a lot of full licence drivers.. although in Australia that isn't really saying much.

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                  • #10
                    Only performance companies that offer something for the 125tdi are Oettinger and MTM.

                    Power increase goes from 125kw and 350Nm to 150kw and 405Nm for MTM and 140kw/420Nm for Oettinger
                    Daniel
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by drad81 View Post
                      Only performance companies that offer something for the 125tdi are Oettinger and MTM.
                      Not quite true. Custom-Code can do them.

                      Gavin
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                      • #12
                        What are CCs specs?

                        Are they all restricted to 380Nm because of the DSG?
                        Daniel
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                        • #13
                          I don't know how/why the 125TDI's would be too much different from the 103TDI's? Sure they might have a different ECU etc, but im sure both would be tuneable.

                          For instance, my brother has a 2012 Octavia TDI (103kw version) which has a BOSCH EDC17 ecu and we sent it down to John from DNA Tuning in Melbourne to tune it with a stage 1 tune. It was a bench tune and i believe the ECU was encrypted/locked. The car goes like a little rocket now.

                          If DNA can tune them, then im sure other tuning companies can aswell. (Viezu / Bluefin / CCode / APR / etc etc.)
                          Last edited by Lucas_R; 28-02-2013, 11:45 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by drad81 View Post
                            Are they all restricted to 380Nm because of the DSG?
                            Most tunes are not restricted by this, more info here: http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...mit-48406.html
                            MKV Golf 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline. Just nice.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
                              I don't know how/why the 125TDI's would be too much different from the 103TDI's? Sure they might have a different ECU etc, but im sure both would be tuneable.

                              For instance, my brother has a 2012 Octavia TDI (103kw version) which has a BOSCH EDC17 ecu and we sent it down to John from DNA Tuning in Melbourne to tune it with a stage 1 tune. It was a bench tune and i believe the ECU was encrypted/locked. The car goes like a little rocket now.

                              If DNA can tune them, then im sure other tuning companies can aswell. (Viezu / Bluefin / CCode / APR / etc etc.)
                              The 125kw version runs a totally different fuel system & turbo (and ECU) compared to the 103kw version. Easy to handle.

                              The DSG will take more than 380nm, and there is ECU coding that assists that, then of course, you can modify the DSG for better driveability & greater torque holding.
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