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  • #16
    It still needs the map fixing IMO. It won't fix itself for sure. As Corey said it should be good from the start and improve a little over the first few hours.

    I reckon you're safe to drive it on part throttle, don't deliberately make it play up. It'd be really good to log it and see what's happening under load.

    Gavin
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    • #17
      I struggle to understand what this half hour learning process is - a computer is a computer and a remap is a remap - what is this transition about?

      Anyway good luck sorting out the superchips remap, I plan to stick it on my Skoda when I find the money

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      • #18
        Originally posted by h100vw View Post
        It still needs the map fixing IMO. It won't fix itself for sure. As Corey said it should be good from the start and improve a little over the first few hours.

        I reckon you're safe to drive it on part throttle, don't deliberately make it play up. It'd be really good to log it and see what's happening under load.

        Gavin
        ok i'll send them another email and see what they do. some feedback would be good from them though.

        How do you log to see whats happening?
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        • #19
          Think i already mentioned it should be good from the "get go" and get better over a period of around 4 driving days. If it is chugging or holding back etc it isnt right. As before mentioned , hate to repeat but its forums, they get repeated over and over. Best thing is to go to the seller mate, have it logged standard. If he is a tuner and not just a Bluefin seller he can do a Vspire read on the ECU and send it to make sure the files marry up. Best to do that than have it diagnosed on line. How can anyone know what your car is like or whats going in sitting behind a laptop all you will get is suggestions and not saying thats bad as i post suggestions myself in many thread on here but to fix anything properly needs a hands on.
          If you need any help or need to prod superchips let me know
          Cheers
          Jmac
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jmac View Post
            Think i already mentioned it should be good from the "get go" and get better over a period of around 4 driving days. If it is chugging or holding back etc it isnt right. As before mentioned , hate to repeat but its forums, they get repeated over and over. Best thing is to go to the seller mate, have it logged standard. If he is a tuner and not just a Bluefin seller he can do a Vspire read on the ECU and send it to make sure the files marry up. Best to do that than have it diagnosed on line. How can anyone know what your car is like or whats going in sitting behind a laptop all you will get is suggestions and not saying thats bad as i post suggestions myself in many thread on here but to fix anything properly needs a hands on.
            If you need any help or need to prod superchips let me know
            Cheers
            Jmac
            Yeah i know mate, i understand what you are saying and i appreciate your help greatly. i dont know what i can do with the seller though as he is in NZ. (he is who i was directed to/responded to my request for a brochure through the superchips.com.au website)

            Sorry to also repeat myself!!

            i have sent another email to superchips.co.uk and asked for some sort of feedback RE: what, how and why this is happening and not just a notification that i have another remap to download.

            Thanks for your offer of help and if i get no where soon, then i will take you up on that.

            I will keep the updates coming.
            Last edited by muggo05; 25-05-2011, 03:10 PM.
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            MK5 GTI Race Car

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Corey_R View Post
              Often what happens when installing an aftermarket flash is that it "highlights" or even "uncovers" an existing problem which isn't evident when you have the standard mapping.
              Probably this.

              Has your car had issues in the past?
              - Mk6 Golf GTD DSG -

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              • #22
                Originally posted by CarbonVW View Post
                Probably this.

                Has your car had issues in the past?
                nope none at all. Hasnt missed a beat ever.

                wouldnt they pick that up in the factory map that i initially sent anyway??
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                • #23
                  Not really, because the problem isn't in the factory map. You could have an issue with one of the spark plugs for example. It's fine with the stock tune level, but as soon as that performance level increases, the spark plug causes problems and the engine starts hiccuping. (Just a random example).

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                  • #24
                    Could be something as simple as sparkplugs, I have seen it after some MK4 flashes. How old are they?

                    Logging is done with a VCDS cable from Ross-Tech: Home

                    The ECU has an element of learning capability and looks at your driving style.

                    Jimmy is right though, internet diagnosis doesn't usually amount to much.

                    Doctor Google can't fix your broken leg.

                    The good thing is it is usually something simple.

                    Gavin
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                    • #25
                      This statement from Corey_R is what I would agree on:
                      Often what happens when installing an aftermarket flash is that it "highlights" or even "uncovers" an existing problem which isn't evident when you have the standard mapping

                      If there was a problem with a car such as weak spark plugs for example or a MAF sensor then by uploading a tune on top of this is not going to generate great results.

                      I understand from frustration also but I would point the finger at the a problem with your car first.

                      It is unfortunate in this case for both the owner of the car and the tuning company as a companies reputation can be damaged especially on forums until the problem is rectified even though the problem may never be anything to do with the tuning company!

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                      • #26
                        Your tuning company can't do **** by you describing random events that happen when you're driving. Ask your tuning company what logs you should run, obtain VCDS cable and get logs.

                        Describing what's going on doesn't prove or show anything.

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                        • #27
                          Ok update time.

                          Sent off another email to superchips and got no acknowledgement at all of my situation (THE THING THAT REALLY ANNOYS ME ABOUT ALL THIS), only a notification to say there is a remap available for download. so I went to download it to the bluefin and nothing. no download there.

                          I am really not happy about this at all. I will go and install some new spark plugs this afternoon and see if that fixes anything.

                          My question about the spark plugs, or most "simple problems" is this, why does the tune work fine when it is above 4000rpm and working it's hardest? At these engine speeds, all of these parts would be working there hardest wouldnt they? The problem is in the 1500~rpm to 4000~rpm range.

                          My biggest frustration in all of this is that I have had no acknowledgment or recognition of my situation from Superchips (despite requesting an acknowledgment or explanation from them). Obviously they are reading my email and sending me off a new remap, and thats it.
                          Very poor customer service from my perspective.
                          Last edited by muggo05; 25-05-2011, 03:11 PM.
                          MY16 VW Golf GTI - Carbon Steel - Manual
                          MK5 GTI Race Car

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                          • #28
                            no no... dude.... don't go start replacing your spark plugs. It could seriously be ANYTHING. I just used that as a random example. I could have just as easily picked your coilpack, or diverter valve instead. I'm sure JMac and Gavin could tell you 20 things off the top of their heads that has caused issues after flashing.

                            You really need to start doing some logging of your car via VCDS and monitor items that your Superchips/Bluefin dealer suggest, to diagnose what is actually causing the issues.

                            If you don't have VCDS and aren't willing to buy that and perform the leg work yourself, then you might need to contact your Superchips/Bluefin dealer, discuss the subject of a refund, and then go to a local ECU tuner in Sydney that can provide you in person support and directly look at your car and diagnose this issue. There are numerous Sydney outfits representing several "name brands" as well as independents who produce their own tunes.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Corey_R View Post
                              no no... dude.... don't go start replacing your spark plugs. It could seriously be ANYTHING. I just used that as a random example. I could have just as easily picked your coilpack, or diverter valve instead. I'm sure JMac and Gavin could tell you 20 things off the top of their heads that has caused issues after flashing.

                              You really need to start doing some logging of your car via VCDS and monitor items that your Superchips/Bluefin dealer suggest, to diagnose what is actually causing the issues.

                              If you don't have VCDS and aren't willing to buy that and perform the leg work yourself, then you might need to contact your Superchips/Bluefin dealer, discuss the subject of a refund, and then go to a local ECU tuner in Sydney that can provide you in person support and directly look at your car and diagnose this issue. There are numerous Sydney outfits representing several "name brands" as well as independents who produce their own tunes.
                              ok ok I wont. I'm just so stressed about this now that I just want to get it fixed.

                              I dont know what to do now.

                              Do i wait and see if Superchips can/will do something about it?

                              I want to get back to square one and have a clean slate before moving forward again.

                              This whole thing is headscrewing me and i'm not happy!
                              Last edited by muggo05; 25-05-2011, 03:12 PM.
                              MY16 VW Golf GTI - Carbon Steel - Manual
                              MK5 GTI Race Car

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                              • #30
                                Is there a phone number you can call?

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