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Thirty extra kilowatts will not give a 1300kg fwd golf, a 2 sec improvement in the 0-100 sprint. That is all I am saying. That sort of performance will take a stage 3 or something which uses what parts and costs how much exactly?
I believe the highly modified STG 3 GTI will have a tough time getting into the 4s even.. But thats another discussion!
True, not 2 seconds for a Golf on ECU alone. But initially you were saying it wouldn't give you 1 second, which it will - more than. Verified and proven many many times.
The 2 second increase is for the Polo GTI, again verified and proven. But then, it's more than a 30kw increase, and it's less than 1300kg, nor a Golf.
As for the Stage 3, since you mentioned it, manual Stage 3 GTI's have done 0 to 100 times in the high 4 second range, let alone DSG versions! (Though mind you, when I bothered collecting the details on this, it was MKV, and people weren't really doing Stage 3 DSG conversions at that stage, so I'm not sure if there would be any further advantage with a DSG GTI due to traction... maybe someone else has info on MK6 Stage 3 GTI times).
Last edited by Corey_R; 07-12-2010, 04:22 PM.
Reason: Added extra info
Some magazines have achieved a 6.5 second 0-100km/h for the stock GTI (have not done any performance testing to my car yet). So it's more like a 1 second improvement. This is still bloody good for a FWD, even faster than the Focus RS!
Yes, but that's like saying "some people have been able to get a flat 5 second 0 to 100 for their Stage I GTI". Which brings us straight back to the 1.5 second improvement.
Typically, you're not going to get 5 seconds flat, but it is possible. Typically you're not going to get the stock GTI to do 6.5 seconds, but it is possible. In any case, the average increase in acceleration in the case of the Golf GTI is more than 1 second. I'm still not sure why everyone is arguing about stuff which there is a long history of real life verified results.
I dont give a toss about what the numbers say - with the Stage 1 and CAI - this car feels miles quicker than stock.
The whole experience is completely different.
This I completely agree with. I honestly can feel a difference with just an air filter as funny as that sounds. Any mod brings a lot of excitement and can change the whole feel. ( a simple air filter gives a throatier sound, and you can hear turbo spool heaps better.) Then when you consider good solid bang mods like a fuel pump, a TBE or a tune, it feels heaps quicker!!
I have a descent amount of experience with modding cars and I know the realities of what simple mods like TBE or a tune, alone, can do.
Thirty extra kilowatts will not give a 1300kg fwd golf, a 2 sec improvement in the 0-100 sprint. That is all I am saying. That sort of performance will take a stage 3 or something which uses what parts and costs how much exactly?
I believe the highly modified STG 3 GTI will have a tough time getting into the 4s even.. But thats another discussion!
Disclaimer: Just to be clear I am almost definitely getting a tune, and more than likely the APR one just cause of everyones joy with it.
Exactly, I'm not sure that the Golf GTI will do a 5 second flat, but I know it will do a 5.5 second, which is still a 1.4 second improvement. REXman can use bold all he wants, but he's arguing against things that we've all already experienced first hand with our own eyes in real life.
Some magazines have achieved a 6.5 second 0-100km/h for the stock GTI (have not done any performance testing to my car yet). So it's more like a 1 second improvement. This is still bloody good for a FWD, even faster than the Focus RS!
I just got back home from a small 10km spirited drive. To be honest the only thing I can make comparisons to is my old Stage 1+ TT and a Stage 3 S3. I feel like this car is just nuts now with the APR. The increased power is barely noticeable when plodding about in D - but the moment you want it, its much much more brutal. The most surprising thing is how easy it is to control. Basically what I mean by that is that it doesn't have to be all or nothing - you can pace it well. Obviously its not as quick the Quattro Stage 3 S3 i've been in - but I feel like the power delivery is much more exciting this time around compared to my older TT.
Of course that was quite a few years back now (the TT), and I am of course judging by the seat of my pants dyno. I can thoroughly say I am enjoying it. There is a little tourque steer and if you dump it off the line itll spin a little - but it's half the fun. The 4Motion from the R would be welcomes - but it might also take 'something' away from the experience. Seeing as I would never dream of tracking my car - I think this combination (perhaps with an exhaust / Stage II tune) would be a great overall package - even if a little 'hairy'.
Corey while at Muller & Muller today, there was a really nice Blue R (with Black tala's) which had just been fitted with the carbonio gear, APR exhaust / downpipe I think and tune. It looked the business mate.
I got mine done at about 400KM. Not usually my style but im so glad I did. Ive just purchased the APR dump pipe and stage 1 and 2 Carbonio intake (from a mate who changed his mind) which ill have fitted in Jan at some stage. Cant wait. No more spending until the next car, after the Stage 2 tune is done. Famous last words!
It's good not to spend too much on the GTI or you could spend the difference between that and an R, but i think Stage2 would be great and minimal mods. They seem good from the factory anyway and i wouldn't even bother with sway bars where i would have with the MK5.
APR Stage 1 with Carbonio installed today. About bloody time.
........... only regret was waiting till I ticked over 10,000KM this week.
I got mine done at about 400KM. Not usually my style but im so glad I did. Ive just purchased the APR dump pipe and stage 1 and 2 Carbonio intake (from a mate who changed his mind) which ill have fitted in Jan at some stage. Cant wait. No more spending until the next car, after the Stage 2 tune is done. Famous last words!
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