Braided brake lines

[ibeezer]

Im giving the 20v cupra some lurv this crissy and on the search for some braided brake lines. Can anyone recommend a supplier preferably in oz? ta
Dave

[Valver.]

Competition Friction - a division of Barrie Smith Motorsport in NSW sell all the Goodridge stuff and custom make the lines from any samples They also sell Pagid, Endless, Ferodo pads etc...

[Water Boy]

If u are going to run braided brake lines on the street they must have a part number! As a friend has a Datto 1600 Rally car and he gone done by the fuzz...

As for brands:

http://www.braidedhoses.com.au/

http://autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=2679

http://www.goodridge.co.uk/

I have Goodridge lines on my DH bike!

[Spyda]

Do they make much difference? I understand that they should make for more responsive braking as the lines dont flex but i cant belive that it would make all that much difference.

[Valver.]

Pedal feel is a bit better, but it's more of a durability thing - rubber hoses don't have the greatest life span, whereas you can literally drive over the top of the Goodridge hose without crushing it.

And yes, they do need a part number for DOT approval - hence going to a reputable motorsport distributor and not some ghetto

[ibeezer]

Im hoping for better brake feel with braided and better brake fluid.

[ibeezer]

Thaanks fellas

[No457 Snowy]

Just something to be aware of before you dive in is that any brake modifications using components which were not standard options for the vehicle, need an engineers certificate.

Snowy.

[The_Hawk]

Just something to be aware of before you dive in is that any brake modifications using components which were not standard options for the vehicle, need an engineers certificate.

Snowy.

Lots of things technically need an engineers certificate, yet most people never bother and never get pulled up on it. Either way it's good to know what you *should* be doing.

It leads to me wonder about my old Mk1 GLD... one of the break lines was craked and weeping when I got a pink slip and the mechanic couldn't get a new part from his supplier so had one of the local places make one to spec for him, from memory it was Pirtek, so not a fly by night back yard job, but I would doubt it had a part number... I wonder how that goes with legality??

[Golf Loon]

Daves Car is engineered anyway, so it will never get checked for stuff like that.

Its all about common sense I reckon. If its a safe mod and you dont drive like an idiot, it will never be an issue.

[Manaz]

I'm planning on putting braided lines on the Bora when the R32 brakes go on.

The R32 brakes will be interesting - they were an option on the Golf, but not the Bora, so I'd probably need them engineered (but again, I don't plan like driving like an idiot, and I doubt I'd ever get pulled up on them).

[Treza360]

When I replaced the front rotors etc on my car I looked into doing braded brake line. Remember to have any real effect you're going to need to do the whole system and not just the lines from callipers. Also make sure the lines are ADR approved and yes you will most likely need them engineered.

When I was investigating the option, I heard the story of a guy with an R32 Skyline who had gotten braided lines from the US. These were DOT approved but not ADR approved (no plastic coating or something) and he was in an accident where someone was killed and they went over his car with a fine tooth comb found that these weren't approved and basically the last I heard he was spending a much longer time in jail for manslaughter becuase of them.

There's nothing wrong with DOT approved lines of course just that as usual backwards rules and regulations in our lovely country.

Cheers,
Trent

[Valver.]

Remember to have any real effect you're going to need to do the whole system and not just the lines from callipers.

What do you mean by this? The main sections in almost every road car are press-bent hard line, so there's no flex to be had anyway.

Replacing all the junctions at the ABS unit with braid would be messy and near on impossible to do - and there'd be no advantage anyway.

I've got full braid through one of my cars, but only because I was starting from scratch and I needed the bias controller beside the tunnel. In a newer car where the lines cannot possibly be rusted out, there's no need to go near them and nothing to be gained.

At the end of day, there's not much to be gained by replacing a foot long section in the wheel arches, but we won't start that argument!

[No457 Snowy]

he was in an accident where someone was killed and they went over his car with a fine tooth comb found that these weren't approved and basically the last I heard he was spending a much longer time in jail for manslaughter becuase of them.

That's a very good point, and it clearly illustrates that what we see as mere "technicalities" are what lawyers and insurance companies always use to avoid an insurance payment, or send us to jail in the event that things go horribly wrong.

Snowy.

[Treza360]

What do you mean by this? The main sections in almost every road car are press-bent hard line, so there's no flex to be had anyway.
Replacing all the junctions at the ABS unit with braid would be messy and near on impossible to do - and there'd be no advantage anyway.
I've got full braid through one of my cars, but only because I was starting from scratch and I needed the bias controller beside the tunnel. In a newer car where the lines cannot possibly be rusted out, there's no need to go near them and nothing to be gained.
At the end of day, there's not much to be gained by replacing a foot long section in the wheel arches, but we won't start that argument!

From what I understood, the parts you can buy from ECS, Neuspeed etc which replace the front and rear lines don't go all the way to the fluid reservoir and were thus kind of pointless.
If as you say the lines there anyway are hard pressed then it would be fine. Lack of knowledge on my part there I guess.
Cheers,
Trent