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  • Originally posted by BaezoN View Post
    Nice !

    What will you do with the downpipe ??
    Custom downpipe from QPEng in the UK.

    By the way, I will get that money sorted soon man. I'm just broke at the moment!!!

    Cheers
    -1990 Mk2 GTI 5-door with AMK 20vt (260hp @ wheels)
    -Arrow/Rotax 125 TAG X1E Go Kart
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    • Originally posted by GOLFBALLS View Post
      Custom downpipe from QPEng in the UK.

      By the way, I will get that money sorted soon man. I'm just broke at the moment!!!

      Cheers
      With the QPEng downpipe doesn't touch the rear engine mount ?

      Can do you make a picture like this with the downpipe mounted ?
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      • Sure thing mate..



        -1990 Mk2 GTI 5-door with AMK 20vt (260hp @ wheels)
        -Arrow/Rotax 125 TAG X1E Go Kart
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        • hey mate, well done with the progress. i just thought i'd share - this photo worries me a little -

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          and I ennded up having to remove some material from the rear engine bracket to accomodate the bloody turbo breather. Hopefully it hasn't weakened the bracket too much...


          gotta say that with that engine mount bracket being cast alloy, i would be worried about it in the long term, and nothing like a broken engine mount to ruin your day, one day.

          my suggestion would be to move the oil drain, personally. its a fairly crap oil drain anyway - fairly long and not particularly steep - and in my experience it best to keep oul drains as short, direct and well draining as possible. It would be easy as pie to weld a bung in the back of the sump right below the turbo cartrige adn make up a shorter oil drain pipe.

          just trying to be of help mate, best of luck with it
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          • Thank you !!!!

            We are in ast work mode], and we want to try to have the swap ready for a trackday on next november 29th jiji

            Pray for us ! LOL
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            • Originally posted by gldgti View Post
              this photo worries me a little -


              gotta say that with that engine mount bracket being cast alloy, i would be worried about it in the long term, and nothing like a broken engine mount to ruin your day, one day.

              my suggestion would be to move the oil drain, personally. its a fairly crap oil drain anyway - fairly long and not particularly steep - and in my experience it best to keep oul drains as short, direct and well draining as possible. It would be easy as pie to weld a bung in the back of the sump right below the turbo cartrige adn make up a shorter oil drain pipe.

              just trying to be of help mate, best of luck with it
              Yeah I hear what you're saying. Buuut, at this stage it's been such a long drawn out process that I just want to get it in and running.
              To be honest, the mount doesn't worry me at all. Even if it does fracture it can be replaced quite easily at the shop. Its not as though i'm running 500bhp.

              Obviously I'll be keeping a close eye on the bracket for the first few months and if it cracks it cracks. I ground the whole thing smoothly to try and minimise any crack-prone 'corners' in the gap.

              As for the breather... yea you're right it's a crap design but meh, it works

              If it becomes an issue i'll deal with it then.

              Cheers!
              -1990 Mk2 GTI 5-door with AMK 20vt (260hp @ wheels)
              -Arrow/Rotax 125 TAG X1E Go Kart
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              • very confused here, what the hell is that rear mount? mine looks nothing like that, is the audi block different?
                90 GTI Mk2 1.8t soon to be with GT28rs

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                • my understanding is that audi engines run North-South whereas VW engines run East-West therefore mounts wouldnt be the same. or i could just be plain wrong and should go back into my shell

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                  • yer your right the VW's are transverse and the Audi's are longditudinal. Still odd, the mk2 rear mount fits straight up
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                    • Originally posted by Kiel_GTI View Post
                      my understanding is that audi engines run North-South whereas VW engines run East-West therefore mounts wouldnt be the same. or i could just be plain wrong and should go back into my shell
                      No you're wrong...

                      S3/TT are transverse.

                      Then again you can fit a TT/S3 block into a longitudinal car (ie B5/B6 A4). Odd isn't it?
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                      • true true sorry i stand corrected you are right but they are completly swappable, you just need to change the intake manfold if i remember rightly? Anyway it does not matter, the mk2 engine mount still fits, whether it rectifies your issue is another thing.

                        what cooling you going to run with mate? Can i highly recommend an oil cooler it works wonders on mine.

                        Oh what pump set up you running too? mk3 tank with 040? or you got a k jet set up on that car?
                        90 GTI Mk2 1.8t soon to be with GT28rs

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                        • the audi a3s and tts are all based on golf mk4 and golf mk5 architecture so all of the engines are physically interchangable. the only thing with the audi longitudinal blocks is that they have provisions for golf mk1 side mounts.

                          where does the oil drain lead actually lead to? like the side of the block?

                          another useful bit, the mk3 and mk2 fuel tanks are exactly the same. ie gets rid of all the k-jet accumlator and pump bypassing/regulating.

                          what size downpipe are you thinking?

                          best of luck with this. looks to be absolutely rapid. but yeah, with aydan, a 20v k04 isn't going to putting out low hp. maybe work out a long term solution with that rear mount
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                          • Originally posted by gmx View Post
                            No you're wrong...

                            S3/TT are transverse.

                            Then again you can fit a TT/S3 block into a longitudinal car (ie B5/B6 A4). Odd isn't it?
                            mmm this shell is lovely

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                            • Originally posted by jayjay View Post
                              the audi a3s and tts are all based on golf mk4 and golf mk5 architecture so all of the engines are physically interchangable. the only thing with the audi longitudinal blocks is that they have provisions for golf mk1 side mounts.

                              where does the oil drain lead actually lead to? like the side of the block?

                              another useful bit, the mk3 and mk2 fuel tanks are exactly the same. ie gets rid of all the k-jet accumlator and pump bypassing/regulating.

                              what size downpipe are you thinking?

                              best of luck with this. looks to be absolutely rapid. but yeah, with aydan, a 20v k04 isn't going to putting out low hp. maybe work out a long term solution with that rear mount
                              Yep.

                              The drain goes to the sump guys. The downpipe is 2.5" all the way home...

                              The car was/is Digi but i'll be swapping to the mk3 fuel tank and running a VR6 pump.

                              With the Passat/A4 longditudinal engines, you have to change a bit more than just the manifolds. The whole bracket for the a/c, alternator, p/s pump, the pulleys, and with the APU engine for example you'll also need to source oil filter brackets from mk3 2 litre, and other things like the water outlets and engine gearbox brackets too! I think its the same as a diesel block IIRC???

                              My long term plan for the rear eng bracket is to replace it if it breaks...
                              -1990 Mk2 GTI 5-door with AMK 20vt (260hp @ wheels)
                              -Arrow/Rotax 125 TAG X1E Go Kart
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                              • another useful bit, the mk3 and mk2 fuel tanks are exactly the same. ie gets rid of all the k-jet accumlator and pump bypassing/regulating.
                                No there not, the mk3 has a baffle in the tank so they only run in tanks,
                                digifant mk2's dont have a baffle and therefore lean out on corners, so they have the "surge tank" underneath mk3's do not
                                90 GTI Mk2 1.8t soon to be with GT28rs

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