Castrol Edge Sport

[darkfriend]

I find all of this very confusing. It kind of makes the price of a service worth it just so you don't have to worry about using the wrong oil!

[Diesel_vert]

Problem is, getting your car serviced at the dealer is no guarantee that they'll use 504/507 oils.

But anyway, those with FSI or TSI engines only need to look for 504.00/507.00 on the label - if it isn't there, don't buy/use it. Can't get much easier than that, really.

[darkfriend]

After reading the things in this thread and others, looks like I'll try some Penrite enviro+ 5W30. It appears approved for the 118TSI and people here seem to think it's pretty good. Can get it from a couple of places in Perth.

Question though- If you have have your car serviced somewhere and need an oil change, will they use oil that you supply if you ask them to?

Thanks

[Diesel_vert]

If they don't, then that's reason enough not to get your car serviced there.

[Paul_OH]

Problem is, getting your car serviced at the dealer is no guarantee that they'll use 504/507 oils.

But anyway, those with FSI or TSI engines only need to look for 504.00/507.00 on the label - if it isn't there, don't buy/use it. Can't get much easier than that, really.

Eg, the local VW dealer uses Mobil Super S 10w40 in Petrol cars however it is a VW 505.00 (Diesel spec) compliant oil






ps I've always wanted to use that smilie - excuse the irrelevance

[Diesel_vert]

Maybe they reserve the 504/507 oil for the FSI & TSI engines only... but I wouldn't get my hopes up, that's for sure.

[gonsped]

I was shopping for my first oil change in Supercheap Auto. I noticed in the VW approved oil list in MK6GTi.com it mentioned "Castrol Edge 5W-30". There was a product of this name - but - on the back of the bottle, it does not certify it as 504.00/507.00.





There was literally no other oil there except the Shell Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 that was 504.00/507.00 certified in the back label.

Even the Mobil 1 5W-30 is not the "ESP" type (504.00/507.00 certified).

[Diesel_vert]

I was shopping for my first oil change in Supercheap Auto. I noticed in the VW approved oil list in MK6GTi.com it mentioned "Castrol Edge 5W-30". There was a product of this name - but - on the back of the bottle, it does not certify it as 504.00/507.00.

The official VAG oil lists are worldwide and not region specific, which means that not every oil on the list is available in every country - that's at the lubricant manufacturer's discretion.

One should also note that the list does not differentiate from retail, bulk, distributor, or wholesale availability.

Also, some manufacturers (e.g. Castrol) sell and market different lubricants according to region;
- Castrol EDGE 5W-30 (504.00/507.00) only appears to be distributed and sold in the E.U. for retail.
- Castrol EDGE 5W-30 A3/B4 (502.00/505.00) is distributed and sold in Australia and perhaps the rest of Asia/Oceania as well.

The only 504/507 oils distributed by Castrol in Australia are;
- Castrol EDGE Professional Longlife III 5W-30
- Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow Longlife III 5W-30
But I don't think they are meant for retail, and probably only available from a distributor or a VAG dealer.

There was literally no other oil there except the Shell Helix Ultra Extra 5W-30 that was 504.00/507.00 certified in the back label.

Even the Mobil 1 5W-30 is not the "ESP" type (504.00/507.00 certified).

I don't think M1 ESP 5W-30 is available for retail yet, but people have seen Liqui-Moly Top Tec 4200 5W-30 at Autobarn and Penrite Enviro+ 5W-30 at Repco. There is also a thread in the sticky of the Mk6 Golf forum, listing the oils that are distributed in Australia.

In any case, the brand or name of oil doesn't really matter - just look for "VW 504.00 / 507.00 approved" on the bottle and you're set.

[gonsped]

Thanks for the detailed explanation DV

[Finance_Analyst]

I used that one on my car and it seems to be ok. If I recall, isn't 502 acceptable for a GTI in the manual?

[Diesel_vert]

I used that one on my car and it seems to be ok. If I recall, isn't 502 acceptable for a GTI in the manual?

You are correct.

502.00 is acceptable not just for the Golf, but for all models not on the variable service regime - which AFAIK is the case for all Australian delivered vehicles.

[gonsped]

I just called the Mobil 1 supplier here in Eagle Farm, Brisbane - turns out you can get the 504.00/507.00 VW certified, Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 engine oil for $233 incl. GST for a 20L drum/can. That is good for at least 5 oil changes on my vehicle.

This works out to be under $60 for 5L. Considering Supercheap sells the standard 5L 5W-30 for $85, that is a 30% saving!

I might pick one up later this week.

[gonsped]

Just wondering, changing my oil every 7,500km at my current rate of driving will take about 1 year to finish the whole 20L drum. In the meantime, as the oil level gets lower and the air replaces the oil - will there be a problem with humidity = water content in the oil?

Would holding oil for 1 year (opened bottle) pose a problem?

[gecko2k]

I believe some manufacturers claim about 12 months after opening. the easiest way would be to contact Mobile through their website and then post the response here on the forum

[hooba]

Just wondering, changing my oil every 7,500km at my current rate of driving will take about 1 year to finish the whole 20L drum. In the meantime, as the oil level gets lower and the air replaces the oil - will there be a problem with humidity = water content in the oil?

Oil and water don't mix. However if you did get any moisture into it (not unlike what you get in the engine anyway once it cools down as a by product of the combustion process), it would evaporate off the first time you ran the engine at operating temperature for a short period.