2.0 Tdi Oil

[brackie]

Thanks.

Ta, Rod. It'll be 2.5 years before I will be allowed to change the oil in my TDI (warranty) but nice to know for topping up.

[shogun2]

I'm just about to pick up 10 litres, so if anyone in Adelaide needs some, contact me, cause there's no way I can see me using 10 litres (I hope).

Rod

[syncro]

Ta, Rod. It'll be 2.5 years before I will be allowed to change the oil in my TDI (warranty) but nice to know for topping up.

Aren't you supposed to change the oil with the annual service?

[brackie]

Good question

Now here's the paradox. If it's true that the first fill of oil is "running in" oil, then surely it should stay in until the kms get high enough to replace it with fully synthetic. If it's there because it's needed until the engine is bedded enough to change oils, then surely the time is irrelevant.

[Seano]

From the ErWin site on the Volkswagen.de site https://erwin.volkswagen.de/index.html

Here's the listing of VW approved 50300/50600 oils.

Firma, Bezeichnung, SAE-Klasse, VW-Norm(en).
Castrol, Castrol SLX Professional Longtec VW Longlife II, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600/50601.
Elf, Elf Evolution CRV, SAE10W-30, 50300/50600/50601.
Fuchs, Fuchs TITAN Supersyn SL PCX, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Fuchs, Labo Carat, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Mobil, Mobil SHC Formula LD, SAE10W-30, 50300/50600/50601.
Modrica, Optima, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
MOL, MOL Dynamic Gold, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
SRS Schmierstoff, WVeinrteriresbh all ViVA 1 SLV, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Statoil, Statoil LazerWay LL 503-506, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600.
Total, Gulf Energy Saving, SAE 0W-30, 50300/50600/50601.

Obviously they are Euro oils but you get the picture. There are a number of other oil standard listings on the site as well. You just have to register (free) to see the listing. It is also the source for all VW workshop manuals via subscription but be warned it can be expensive but it is truly extensive.

[Rod_H]

The 2.0 TDi has started to use a bit of oil after 3000k's.
Picked up some Fuchs Titan Supersyn Longlife Plus 0w30 at bursons auto parts.
They had to order it in, there part number is 3279004 List 91.05 plus GST.
It does VW503.00 506.00 506.01 According to a few posts on TDiClud forums
506.01 is the newer spec oil the covers 505.01 and the new long life 506.01 spec's.
It's an Imported oil Made in the EU according to the bottle.

Rod...

[gldgti]

just topped up the polo with 5W-40 Shell Oil

i dont like shell oil... just my opinion but i've seen peoples cars burn lots of it and wear badly..

[vwjetta]

Jetta tdi oil

Just picked up new Jetta. Have same oil requirements question. Dealer mentioned to keep eye on oil level especially in first 5000km. Question - since I needed to keep an eye on it and if I found myself needing it, what spec oil do I put in it at the service station??? Manual states VW507.00. Phoned Mobil and actually got a very helpful person! Mobil '1' 5W-40 = VW505.00 and VW506.00 spec (after investigation this is actually on the 5litre packaging on Mobil oil found at SuperCheap Auto.) Mobil '1 ESP' 5W-30 = VW507.00 spec especially for 2.0 Tdi vechicles fitted with particulate filter (which acording to Mobil information and the dealer all '07 spec Jetta vechicles are.) Mobil state that this oil is only in the barrel until next week when it will be moved to 20litre containers. Mobil tells me this oil will become more comercially available by the end of the year. These 20litre containers will be sent out next week and Mobil asked for a call back in a couple of weeks time to asked where these have been sent to where of which I will be able purchase.

Not a bad idea to bottle up in 1litre containers and sell to members?

I hope this has helped.

[brackie]

Good news!

Firstly, congrats on the new Jetta

Thanks for the news and tips on oil. My TDI hasn't used enough oil to warrant a top up and has done 7500km. It goes for the first service next week and will have an oil change. I was warned about oil use before rings bedded in (not by the dealer but by gtimk5 ) so I've watched it carefully and I guess to a certain extent this validates my running in techniques for a diesel engine.

It's a pity that Mobil aren't continuing with the 5L packs as for most of us this would be the way to go. I like the idea of a group buy of a 20L drum but I fear that postage costs would negate the price advantage.

[jets]

Brackie, please let us know how your first service goes. If you think of it ask what oil & spec they are using.

[brackie]

First service

It happens on Thurs 22nd. I chose John Hall who is a local guy and has a registered VAG service centre. Don't care if he's cheaper or more expensive than the "big end of town" 'cos I'll always support the small guy... As long as he knows what he's doing

[brackie]

Snap!

Yeah.. I posted exactly the same article form TDI club and got some interesting replies.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ead.php?t=1236

I used a mixture of the TDI post's recommendations, my own experience and common sense. I've never overworked the engine until the oil achieved full operating temp and then made sure I gave it a balance of hard pulling and hard engine braking going down hills. I absolutely avoided constant engine speeds, often changing up and down the 'box while travelling at a constant road speed. Because diesels are combustion/ignition engines, well bedded rings and avoiding cylinder wall glazing are crucial to long engine life. My TDI is very young at 7500km and I'm still observing running in procedures. I probably will be for some time yet

[jets]

My dealer uses mobil. I asked the service adviser what grade of oil do they use. He pulled out his little black book & said Mobil 1. I replied that I didn't think it complied. He said if it didn't they wouldn't be using it.
I was driving past another day & I thought I would ask someone in the service bay. Well they were all at lunch so being cheeky I walked in & read the marking on the 200ltr drum. It read mobil ESP. What a relief. I had my car serviced recently & was worried that they had used the wrong oil.
Now the service adviser is new with no previous VW experience I am told. I remember talking to the previous guy & he had told me that Mobil 1 was OK to use just to top up to get you through to the next service.
Now the new guy is quoting mobil 1 as the oil to use for a full oil change.
From my experience it's not too hard to see what will happen to these engines if the authorized dealer can't quote the correct oil.
I am glad I bought a new TDI where I can make sure the correct oil goes in.

[Rod_H]

To many numptys working in dealerships, dispensing information, they know nothing about.
If they only read there bulletins, and put a little pride in there work/job!!!!!!!!
we would all be better off.

[briseos]

Golf V TDi 45000kms

My MY05 Golf V TDi has showed all the classic signs
- oil light came on at 7500kms - took it to nearest dealer (was on road trip) and they topped it up for free on the spot with the same as original oil
- oil light came on again at 30000kms - again took it to dealer (again on road trip) and they again topped up for free on the spot
- now almost due for 45000km service - never seen the oil light since 30000

I must say that the engine continues to improve more and more as the kms clock up - it is now soooooo loose and free-running - just feels better and better - drives incredibly well when pushed hard and uses hardly any fuel

Recent very enthusiastic burn through the sunshine coast hinterland averaged over 100kmh and 6.6l/100k on the clock but actually 6.25 at the pump..... unbelievable!!! and even impressed re-mapped GTi driver mate in handling (sportline) and speed and then knocked his jocks off when we did a comparative re-fill (he needed to, I was still close to 3.4 full )