Next Gen Superb - 17/2/15

[gamcem]

BTW Sportline will be released later in the year with Fabia MC & R230

Any expected date for the Sportline? I'm keen now but if the Sportline is on its way I'll wait!

VW will need to update their model line up for the Passat.

[MattPS]

All we were told was later in the year no specific month

[2009fsi]

Thank you for responding Matt. I've had the two bigger dealers around Sydney respond to my requests this morning. I'm seeing PW Skoda tomorrow. Hopefully the experience will be better than Ozsko's.

I'm hoping the driver door/ roof line still allows a big bloke like me easy access, without suffering concussion & brain damage every time I enter or exit.

FWI worth, that's what first induced me to investigate Skoda & Superb; seeing a bloke I know well, jumping in & out easily, during the 2010 Tour Down Under. I dumped years of performance Fords & Holdens when I bought the 4x4 V6 & I've never regretted it. (Except at the bowser; the R36 is thirstier than a 5ltr V8, when 'driven'.) This 2016 model looks a major leap forward in technology across so many aspects of the car.

The rake of the windscreen, shorter doors & bat wings on seats in so many modern cars, make entry & exit near impossible for me. It may not seem much, but very important when one is both big, aging & less nimble.

Let's see what happen at Warwick Farm & Parramatta tomorrow.

[MattPS]

No problem when you get a price give me an opportunity

The new Superb is wider too you will be fine

[OilBurna]

What dealer are you at Matt?


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[2009fsi]

I went to Peter Warren Skoda this morning. No new Superb to display or drive. No brochures, no pricing info & a salesman who had clearly missed last week's training. He literally knew nothing. When PW Group management & systems have something more & tell him, he'll ring me..............

My wife wanted to go to Parramatta, so then drove to Trivet Skoda. They don't have a car to display or drive either, possibly this afternoon. However the salesman was very well informed, had attended Skoda's training & drive sessions & able to provide me all the data I sought. Trivet has cars, but they aren't yet processed through their system. These big 'we sell everything' auto groups in Sydney are bureaucratic & slow moving monoliths, it seems.

The Trivet salesmen confirmed what you mentioned MattPS, Skoda have many vehicles in-country, but are yet to put them on the database available to dealers. The man at Trivet will chase available options with Skoda by phone. this afternoon. It seems, if you want a black wagon with beige interior, you can probably buy one by Wednesday. No my taste.

What a contrast between commercial entities.

[OilBurna]

Sounds like the usual **** show you would think that they would get all this sorted before the release


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[MattPS]

I went to Peter Warren Skoda this morning.

To be fair brochures (soft copy) only availablr this morning.

PM me your email address happy to add it to the pile of emails I'm sending to customers

Our demo cars are all PD'd and have around 500 kms on them already

[mrmomoz]

just drove the 206tsi. amazing, in comfort mode its like riding a cloud..

[dArK5HaD0w]

To be fair brochures (soft copy) only availablr this morning.

I got the soft brochures last week, 17th mar.
downloaded from the skoda au website.

[OilBurna]

Thanks to Matt for sending the brochures out looks awesome


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[2009fsi]

I should be able to test a 206 in Sydney tomorrow. I'll be interested to see what tyres are fitted & learn more about the cars technical specs, not yet revealed by Skoda. In particular, the braking system & performance. The brakes on my existing V6 are 'superb', I assume with 19" wheels, the new Skoda must also have similar big discs & callipers or better braking capability.

Reading through the various revues done by our fearless motoring press so far, I find them quite shallow. It appears there has been no serious testing of the limits or measurement of things like braking performance. In fact braking & tyres don't rate a mention in those I've seen. A complete contrast to the 2009/10 write ups of the V6 which suggested the car was 'over-braked'.

One only has to look through this forum to see one of the greatest irritants for Skoda owners has been the level of road & tyre noise entering the cabin. I made the mistake of putting Dunlop SP Sports Maxx on my V6 early on. Great handling tyres, but the degree of resonant noise in the cabin from the back, at 110kms/hr on an expressway was painful & very tiring. In the end, I through way those Dunlops when only 20% warn & replaced them with the softer, more euro chassis friendly Contisports3. They transformed the car & noise disappeared. I note one motoring writer's review of the 206TSi, wrote of noise from the back, but never mentioned what tyres were on the car or offered any comment on whether Skoda has introduced some level of sound deadening for Australian Skodas with the 2016 Superbs. I see a lot of references to peak power & torque figures, but it appears none of the writers looked at torque & power response at cruising speed on variable roads. What happens when the car reaches a long steady climb? What sought of revs is the car doing at cruising speeds? That's what I find missing; the driveability.

Has anyone yet lifted the boot mat & had a look at the wheel well? It has to be big enough to take the emergency spare, but is it big enough to take the depth of a full size spare. Skoda always claimed earlier V6 models had a bike wheel because a full size wheel was 'too high'. That was a lie. It fits perfectly. I'm hoping the same is true of the 2016 Superb. In fact it will be a deal breaker for me if the wheel well is inadequate. This move to 8" rim width is a welcome one & opens access to a far wider range of tyres used by other vehicles. 225.40x18 were virtually unavailable outside major cities, unless it was a town full of Subarus.

It would be great if some of these writers would return to reviewing more of the cars mechanicals from the drivers perspective. iPad mounts on the back of my driver's seat, I need like a hole in the head. Too many reviews spend far too much considering the comfort of passengers. Perhaps they need reminding, drivers usually buy cars & drive them, not passengers.

I've searched the web, but not found any proper technical specification for the new Superb's mechanicals.

[Riker]

2009fsi, this might be of a bit of assistance. Brake size for the 206tsi is 340mm front, 310mm rear.

Sedan: Road Vehicle Descriptor (RVD1)
Wagon: Road Vehicle Descriptor (RVD1)

[MattPS]

I should be able to test a 206 in Sydney tomorrow. etc.

Any questions happy to answer - the 2 wagons we have here atm have Pirelli Cinturato P7 tyres and have full size steel wheel spare with Nexen tyres

Sedan is currently out on loan for the day so will confirm on return later today

[2009fsi]

Thanks very much Riker & MattPS.

I am still yet to see or drive a 2016 Superb; maybe tomorrow ......
Interesting they have changed to a slightly smaller front disc, in a bigger rim. The V6 has 345 & 310. It may be as simple as a change of equipment supplier. An interesting document , Riker.

The Pirelli Cinturato P7 is an interesting choice on the 206 AWD. These 'smart' AWD sedans really do need the softer compounds typical in Europe. A harder compound of different construction primarily developed around perfornance V8s, like the Dunlops mentioned before, have grip characteristics at variance to the software of the cars stability system. ContiSports3 was basically a slick tyre with 5 wide channels around the tyre. That's why it was quieter. It doesn't have the array if small cut blocks easily moved, which can be a source of noise.
Glad to hear there is a full size spare, steel or alloy, Matt.