Wanting tyre recommendations

[brad]

Sport Contact 2

You won't get them unless they are aged stock.

I got 45,000km out of my CSC2 and could have stretched to 50-55k if I took them down to the wear bars. I drive very conservitavly so I can't imagine how you must drive to get 105,000km (nothing wrong with that - well done you!).

You would be a happy camper with PS3. Does everything equal or better than the CSC2. Mileage would be = or greater. Definitly quieter (one of big downfalls of the CSC2 IMO)

[neil]

Sport Contact 2

You won't get them unless they are aged stock.

I got 45,000km out of my CSC2 and could have stretched to 50-55k if I took them down to the wear bars. I drive very conservitavly so I can't imagine how you must drive to get 105,000km (nothing wrong with that - well done you!).

You would be a happy camper with PS3. Does everything equal or better than the CSC2. Mileage would be = or greater. Definitly quieter (one of big downfalls of the CSC2 IMO)

Should have mentioned 80% freeway driving.

[brad]

Should have mentioned 80% freeway driving.

Me too.

You must be very smooth.

Then again, if your tyres are now 6 yrs old then they would be age hardened & therefore wearing even slower but illegal in many parts of Europe. It's maximum 5 years from manufacture date IIRC.

[Legion]

I just put a hole in the side wall of one of my Pirellis' and can't find any in stock in Sydney. Two weeks before the distributor gets them in.

On my Superb the tyre placard states that the 16" and 17" require a minimum of 94W and the 18" a 91.

[Diesel_vert]

On my Superb the tyre placard states that the 16" and 17" require a minimum of 94W and the 18" a 91.

That should read 92, not 91.

Apart from that, the information is correct. The Skoda Superb isn't exactly a lightweight vehicle, hence it is fitted with extra load tyres from the factory to ensure they can support the loads the vehicle is capable of placing on its front and rear axle.

Standard load:
205/55 R16 91V
225/45 R17 91W
225/40 R18 88Y

Extra load:
205/55 R16 94V XL
225/45 R17 94W XL
225/40 R18 92Y XL

I just put a hole in the side wall of one of my Pirellis' and can't find any in stock in Sydney. Two weeks before the distributor gets them in.

For the purposes of roadworthiness, passenger car tyres of a given axle need not be identical except for size (e.g. 225/45 R17) and construction (e.g. radial).

Also note that all tyres fitted on the car are to have a load index not less than specified by the vehicle manufacturer.

So whichever brand of tyre you end up fitting (and it can be any), just mind the load index and check if it's an extra load tyre.

[Legion]

Yes your right its 92.

The bottom describes the load rating which says

"The tires fitted to this vehicle shall have a max load rating not less than 670/670/630 kg or a load index of 94/94/92 and speed category not less than V/W/Y"

So a Superb Elegance, as an example, shouldn't be fitted with a 91 index as suggested above on a 16", 17" or 18" as that would be contrary to the placard. It might be fine for a Golf but they are a lighter car.

If you know of a nice quiet tyre with a 94 index better than the P7 cinturato I be interested in your opinion.

Whats the difference between the PZero and PZero Nero in the real world? I'm told that they are better than the P7 but that made be because they're in stock.

[brad]

I just put a hole in the side wall of one of my Pirellis' and can't find any in stock in Sydney. Two weeks before the distributor gets them in.

On my Superb the tyre placard states that the 16" and 17" require a minimum of 94W and the 18" a 91.

What are you actually asking?

How many places have you rung in Sydney? There'd have to be 400 Pirelli sellers. Have you tried Tempe or St.George tyres or looked on eBay?

[Legion]

I'm not asking a question in that quote. I'm simply highlighting to the original poster who drives a Superb that the suggestions of a 91 weight rating are incorrect.

How many have I rung?

The car is currently fitted with 17" Pirelli P7 Cinturato which I wanted to replace. I've rung about 10. Some have searched their national databases and one rang Pirelli. That tyre isn't available until it arrives in about two weeks. Yes, I've looked at Ebay.

So I can drive around without a spare or I can look for 94W alternatives.

[brad]

try tempe or st george as they often do parallel imports. Otherwise Michelin PS3 will do better than the Pirelli in all aspects of driving. Goodyear F1A2 are also good. I'm not a huge fan of Pirelli - quality is too variable imo

[Legion]

Tempe doesn't have the Cinturato. They have the PZero in stock.

The PS3 and F1A2 are more expensive tyres by about $100. I note that in reviews they sometimes say they would like them to be quieter.

Are they actually noisy? I'm trying to work out if the comment is they are noisy relative to other tyres in that $300 tyre class or they are actually noisy compared to tyres in general.

If they are noisy compared to other $300 tyres but quieter than the $180 Cinturato then thats ok.

The F1A2 gets a good rap in recent reviews.

[Diesel_vert]

If you know of a nice quiet tyre with a 94 index better than the P7 cinturato I be interested in your opinion.

You didn't mention size, but I assume you're after 225/45 R17 94W XL?

Perhaps consider the new Michelin Primacy 3 ST, though reviews may be hard to come by, as they haven't been on the market for long.

Whats the difference between the PZero and PZero Nero in the real world?

Excluding the P Zero Corsa, the P Zero is Pirelli's flagship performance road tyre.

The P Zero Nero and P Zero Rosso are older designs and can be considered a level down from the P Zero in terms of performance.

However, not having compared them personally, I couldn't really say what any real world differences there are between them.

I'm told that they are better than the P7 but that made be because they're in stock.

The "best" tyre is one that meets the consumer's wants, needs and preferences.

Tyres can be defined by their strongest characteristics (such as grip, handling, steering response, directional stability, aquaplaning, treadwear, ride comfort, noise, rolling resistance, and so on).

The P Zero range emphasizes more of the former, while the Cinturato range emphasizes more of the latter.

I'm not asking a question in that quote. I'm simply highlighting to the original poster who drives a Superb that the suggestions of a 91 weight rating are incorrect.

People often ask for tyre recommendations without listing the size, load index, speed symbol or what sort of characteristics they want from a tyre, but that's okay, because this forum willing to help regardless - however the answers often reflect the scope of the original question.

It's not as if we purposely provide unsuitable advice, but we can't help it if the person doesn't mention the size, load index or speed symbol.

I'd even forgotten that the Superb was fitted with extra load tyres from the factory until you mentioned it.

How many have I rung?

The car is currently fitted with 17" Pirelli P7 Cinturato which I wanted to replace. I've rung about 10. Some have searched their national databases and one rang Pirelli. That tyre isn't available until it arrives in about two weeks. Yes, I've looked at Ebay.

So I can drive around without a spare or I can look for 94W alternatives.

Unless the spare tyre isn't the same size as the tyre that's fitted on the opposite side of the axle, I'd have no qualms driving about around without a spare (within suburbia) until the tyre you want arrives in the country.

[brad]

225/45r17 ps3 & f1a2 are <$200 at Tempe.

As DV said, you haven't really said what u want in a tyre so I chose a good all-rounder

[Legion]

Thanks,

Quiet, high performance, long lasting about the $200 mark. I don't want to downgrade from the P7 Cinturato which is what I have. I'm not ever going to drive the Superb "on the edge". I'm most likely going to need performance when I need to brake suddenly or driving in the rain.

Thanks for pointing out the F1A2 price at Tempe. Before speaking to Tempe I asked one of the other sellers about the F1A2 price and got a $300 response so I had put that into the would like category rather than the being considered category.

[brad]

Prices vary dramatically around Sydney. When I bought tyres for my Sister's Accord Euro the large tyre place quoted $200 each for the same tyre Tempe charged me $115 for.

For $40/set you wouldn't bother but for $300+ it's worth shopping around or trying to get your local guy to match / come close to prices.

[Legion]

I ended up going to Tempe. I think the size worked against me. PS3 and F1 A2 not available. I got the PZero.