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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pullstarter View Post
    I'm not sure if the older TFSI models may have had a stronger clutch than the later models? Or maybe the newer engines produce more torque than the older ones when flashed? The current model clutches certainly don't seem to handle it
    not sure about the clutch packs specifically, but i believe the new mk3 rs (and mk7 gti) use the same DSG DQ250 transmission, which is officially rated at 350nm. the same DQ250 is mapped slightly differently to match the Gen3 EA888 TSI engine, but its essentially the same hardware.

    with the stg 2+, the Gen1 EA888 TSI engine, its pushing out approx 465nm, and 278 horses (207 kw) with the same transmission. well, that's the figures apr claims. i haven't done a dyno yet.
    in addition, the dsg performance tune i got modifies the torque limiter and increases torque capacity to 450 – 500nm.
    with the dsg tune, the clutch shudder is dramatically reduced. It also means a longer life of gearbox and clutch packs, less clutch slip.
    Last edited by dArK5HaD0w; 15-11-2016, 07:38 PM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by dArK5HaD0w View Post
      not sure about the clutch packs specifically, but i believe the new mk3 rs (and mk7 gti) use the same DSG DQ250 transmission, which is officially rated at 350nm. the same DQ250 is mapped slightly differently to match the Gen3 EA888 TSI engine, but its essentially the same hardware.

      with the stg 2+, the Gen1 EA888 TSI engine, its pushing out approx 465nm, and 278 horses (207 kw) with the same transmission. well, that's the figures apr claims. i haven't done a dyno yet.
      in addition, the dsg performance tune i got modifies the torque limiter and increases torque capacity to 450 – 500nm.
      with the dsg tune, the clutch shudder is dramatically reduced. It also means a longer life of gearbox and clutch packs, less clutch slip.
      The car is manual, clutches fall over on K04 cars all the time. Not so much on the k03.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by woofy View Post
        Yes it would, I was told they go a lot, so many people made them single mass when they died but never heard of anyone having issues in Oz with them.
        The biggest expense with the clutch replacement I did on the MKVI was the new DMF, cost a bloody fortune!
        2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by woofy View Post
          Yes it would, I was told they go a lot, so many people made them single mass when they died but never heard of anyone having issues in Oz with them.
          Any issues with going to a single mass from a dual mass?
          2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
          Forever blowing bubbles.

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          • #20
            I've been running stage 2 in a mk2 DSG VRS for 3 years without any problems

            In rush hour traffic when crawling I don't let it modulate the clutch in 2nd, I put it in manual and select 1st

            Been on the track plenty of times

            I've mastered the art of accelerating just fast enough to match bogans in commodores (keeps their hopes up) and then destroy them when they change gear.

            Pretty happy
            2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
            APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
            APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
            Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pullstarter View Post
              Any issues with going to a single mass from a dual mass?
              My TDI with a single mass has a really interesting mechanical rattle that I've only heard in dedicated track cars... Its not bad; its not particularly intrusive; its just... interesting.
              Apart from that, no issues - on mine at least.
              2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
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              • #22
                That's pretty normal

                I replaced the dual mass flywheel in my 350Z
                It now makes tractor noises below 1,800rpm under load
                2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
                APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
                APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
                Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Martin View Post
                  I've been running stage 2 in a mk2 DSG VRS for 3 years without any problems

                  In rush hour traffic when crawling I don't let it modulate the clutch in 2nd, I put it in manual and select 1st

                  Been on the track plenty of times

                  I've mastered the art of accelerating just fast enough to match bogans in commodores (keeps their hopes up) and then destroy them when they change gear.

                  Pretty happy
                  I imagine it would be less noticeable in a manual?
                  2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
                  Forever blowing bubbles.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
                    My TDI with a single mass has a really interesting mechanical rattle that I've only heard in dedicated track cars... Its not bad; its not particularly intrusive; its just... interesting.
                    Apart from that, no issues - on mine at least.
                    I think that's what people refer to as clutch "chatter"?
                    2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
                    Forever blowing bubbles.

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