Anyone had issues with clutch wear after a stage 1 flash?

[Pullstarter]

Hey guys,
I have a 2008 RS wagon with about 120k's on it and was thinking of doing an APR Stage 1 flash. Has anyone had clutch wear issues after getting this done? Had the Stage 2 flash done in my MKVI GTI and needed a new clutch within 12 months (a very expensive affair )

Not sure whether to risk it or not?

Cheers
Simon

[tigger73]

Manual or DSG?

Certainly on the MK7 guys are frying manual clutches. The DSG seems to take the additional torque a lot better.

[Pullstarter]

Manual or DSG?

Certainly on the MK7 guys are frying manual clutches. The DSG seems to take the additional torque a lot better.

Mine's a manual, as was the GTI. Only got about 10k out of the standard clutch after the Stage 2 flash Although I had a stage 1 flash in my manual Tiguan with no issues at all. Maybe the older generation clutches are a bit more heavy duty?

[dArK5HaD0w]

Touch wood - so far so good for me. No issues.
MY11 DSG TSI.

Feb 2013 - Stage 1
Aug 2013 - Stage 2+
Feb 2014 - DSG Performance Tune

Still smiling ear to ear everytime I jump behind the wheel 😁

[Yagadan]

2015 mkIII RS.
My clutch started slipping after ~10000kms with a tuning box.
And I'm no hoon.
Weak ass clutch


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[Pullstarter]

I'm not sure if the older TFSI models may have had a stronger clutch than the later models? Or maybe the newer engines produce more torque than the older ones when flashed? The current model clutches certainly don't seem to handle it

[tigger73]

Mine's a manual, as was the GTI. Only got about 10k out of the standard clutch after the Stage 2 flash Although I had a stage 1 flash in my manual Tiguan with no issues at all. Maybe the older generation clutches are a bit more heavy duty?

It's possible the manual Tiguan has a heavier duty clutch with a higher torque rating due to towing capacity of the Tig (2200kg). Compared to the GTI/RS which have lower towing capacity (1600kg).

Given that the DSG in the Tiguan is the stronger DQ500 it would follow that the manual would be a heavier duty clutch also. But that's just going by the vehicle weight and towing capacity.

[tigger73]

2015 mkIII RS.
My clutch started slipping after ~10000kms with a tuning box.
And I'm no hoon.
Weak ass clutch


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That's a very common story with the new MQB platform cars. If you have a manual and tune it, then you also need to budget on replacing the clutch.

I think the new engines just make more power/torque than the old ones.

[Mysticality]

My TDI clutch lasted until 120,000km, with a tune! ... DMF was on the way out, though, so the whole lot got replaced.

[pjam73]

Just came across this thread: JB1 6MT Clutch Update "Poll" - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum
On the face of it there a quite a lot of GTI owners with the JB1 mod that are NOT having issues with their clutch (yet!), although some are.

[tigger73]

That would be because a JB1 upgrade is only a mild tune compare to a "proper" stage 1 ECU flash.

Having said that if you were concerned about your clutch then a mild tune is probably going to be safer - but then it begs the question of why you're tuning it in the first place....

Just upgrade your clutch and go stage 2+!!!!

[Pullstarter]

That would be because a JB1 upgrade is only a mild tune compare to a "proper" stage 1 ECU flash.

Having said that if you were concerned about your clutch then a mild tune is probably going to be safer - but then it begs the question of why you're tuning it in the first place....

Just upgrade your clutch and go stage 2+!!!!

If only the budget would allow lol.

[h100vw]

If only the budget would allow lol.

There's plenty of better value tunes on the market. No need to get the local one, just because it's there.

Gavin

[Pullstarter]

While we're on the subject of flywheels I'm guessing mine would be a dual mass? 2008 TFSI?

[woofy]

Yes it would, I was told they go a lot, so many people made them single mass when they died but never heard of anyone having issues in Oz with them.