Good value bluefin tune

[brad]

Does anyone have the bluefin with a 2012 mk2 FL 2.0 petrol turbo TSI motor/ECU combination on here ? This is tempting ... I've received an email back from superchips that my ECU should not need to be bench tuned, but saw in another thread that a Jetta of same vintage with the same 147kw TSI motor could not use the handheld device ..

If it's the TFSI motor, there is no issue.


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You're in Sydney. Go to ReCode tuning at Miranda. Pay the little bit extra. You won't regret it.

I got my Bluefin for $660 back in 2010. I think it's great value for money but it locks you in. At the time, the competitors were $1200+ but they've all come down in price since then.

[Andres]

You're in Sydney. Go to ReCode tuning at Miranda. Pay the little bit extra. You won't regret it.

I got my Bluefin for $660 back in 2010. I think it's great value for money but it locks you in. At the time, the competitors were $1200+ but they've all come down in price since then.

I looked into RCS (ReCode) a year ago, and it seemed like best value if you were to pay for someone to do it locally as they actually run the car on a dyno before and after to check the tune. The Revo and GIAC options were about the same price.

BUT, it was still $1249... Which is a lot more than $550! Don't know if the prices have dropped more since.

[brad]

last time I checked he was around $1k.

It's horses for courses. If you intend to do the Bluefin and nothing else, then it's a good proposition.

I finished up adding a Golf R IC, Nuespeed style IC pipes, GFB DV+ and exhaust mods. For reasons I can't understand, Supercheaps don't do a stage 2 for the 1.8tsi, so to optimise the tune for the mods I have to throw away the Bluefin (the controller is worth about $50) and start again.

Just know where you want to end up and you'll be right.

[Tuan]

Nothing beats a tune where a log is done after the tune is run on your car and then it's revised (as many times) as needed. Not entirely sure I am comfortable with an off the shelf tune but just asking the questions.

I paid $5xx for my handheld + custom tunes on my Focus ST done by a company in the USA. The VW/Audi/Skoda guys are killing us on their tune pricing.

So does anyone know about the compatibility of the bluefin for this motor/ecu (2012 mk2 FL 2.0 petrol turbo TSI) ?

[brad]

I've had mine in for 150,000km without issue.

I'm pretty sure the locked ECU didn't come in until much later - June 2013 or maybe as late as 2014?? The only way you can verify 100% compatibility is to get all the numbers off the ECU and send it to them. Or Maybe the VIN will be enough.

[Tuan]

Wouldn't 2013/14 be the MK3 Octavia ? Think the Mk2 finished up in 2012 some time, correct me if I am wrong.

I think I'll email my VIN to superchips - good idea.

[woofy]

We didn't get the Mk3 here until the end of 2013, I remember going to look at them. And then the first RS came out around March 2014.

[brad]

Mk2 finished in Feb or Mar 2013

[MickeyB]

Good value bluefin tune

Hmmm... I'm wondering if it's worth pursuing that avenue (stage 2).

I'll install the stage 1 and assess. That said, it would be nice to have a little more growl out of the tailpipes: I'm assuming the removal of the cat would somewhat improve the exhaust note?

I just don't want to make it too loud: I work shifts, so leave home in the wee hours of the morning: not really wanting to upset all my neighbors/wake my kids, etc. when I take the Stagea out, I have to time my arrival/departure times- the thing is LOUD (full exhaust, lumpy cams etc): I park under the house, and it shakes the couch in the lounge room upstairs!


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[Tuan]

Thanks for the info guys

[donweather]

Does anyone have the bluefin with a 2012 mk2 FL 2.0 petrol turbo TSI motor/ECU combination on here ? This is tempting ... I've received an email back from superchips that my ECU should not need to be bench tuned, but saw in another thread that a Jetta of same vintage with the same 147kw TSI motor could not use the handheld device ..

If it's the TFSI motor, there is no issue.


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I do. I have a 2012 vRS TSI Wagon. Bluefin handheld device worked a treat. Stage 2 tune for this model is apparently the same as the Mk 6 GTI Stage 2 results according to my emails with Superchips. Look at this curve and Stage 2 looks very very impressive!!! The torque increase looks amazing.

http://www.superchips.co.uk/search?make=38&fueltype=3&model=465&variant=2108

http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/GolfMk6GTi%20Stage2.pdf

[Tuan]

Thumbs up !

[Greg Roles]

Just to represent the "dearer" local dyno tuners, you do get what you pay for. I'm sure Mark at Recode, Tarmac, all the popular dyno using tuners can get similar good results out of a MK6 GTI. Is it twice as good for twice the cost? Returns never are, but this is a local stage one, pump fuel, over summer in humid QLD. Not a sell job, just a comparison, and to show what the spend gets you. I'm all for competition, and if my provider drops pricing it's a good thing, as more people will buy, but top end tunes take time, and cost money to do, it's an eye opener.

Please note much lower, realistic dyno starting point. Gains +69hp and 115nm. Stage one, normal fuel. Oh and perhaps most important of all, 18psi.

[xssive]

I agree that you do get what you pay for.
The Bluefin is a cheap way to get a little extra power & If that's all you want then go for it.

If you want to get the most out of the mods & the car then you cant go past a custom dyno tune. is it worth the extra money ? it is if you can afford it & will take advantage of it.

As for the superchips dyno graphs, don't even get me started at the inconsistencies in some of them.
I had a long email exchange with them about some of these.

I scored a Bluefin cheap, 2 days after buying my car so I jumped on it , however if I continue to mod my Mk5, ill prob go to a custom tune to get the most out of it all, especially if I go a K04 turbo.

Just to represent the "dearer" local dyno tuners, you do get what you pay for. I'm sure Mark at Recode, Tarmac, all the popular dyno using tuners can get similar good results out of a MK6 GTI. Is it twice as good for twice the cost? Returns never are, but this is a local stage one, pump fuel, over summer in humid QLD. Not a sell job, just a comparison, and to show what the spend gets you. I'm all for competition, and if my provider drops pricing it's a good thing, as more people will buy, but top end tunes take time, and cost money to do, it's an eye opener.

Please note much lower, realistic dyno starting point. Gains +69hp and 115nm. Stage one, normal fuel. Oh and perhaps most important of all, 18psi.

[Tuan]

Impressive, do you have numbers / graphs for the Skoda VRS TSI 2.0 ? Stock 197 hp as opposed to the 'similar' mk6 GTI 207 HP motor? That baseline on your graph reads quite high (at the wheels?)


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