MkV GTI shocks and springs on Octy Wagon?

[Mysticality]

Yay! Mine's not THAT heavy... XD

[gldgti]

heres my info...

118kw 1.8tfsi liftback 1325 combi 1340 (6 speed man), 1360/1375 DSG

147kw 2.0tfsi liftback 1400 combi 1415 (6 speed man), 1435/1450 DSG

77kw 1.9tdi liftback 1310 combi 1325 (5 speed man), 1350/1365 DSG

103kw 2.0tdi lifttback 1335 combi 1350 (6 speed man), 1370/1385 DSG

125kw 2.0tdi liftback 1430 combi 1445, 1465/1480 DSG

My info seems very different from yours Darkshadow

Unfortunately Mysticality, i reckon you have the heavyweight

Logically - the 125TDI is the monster engine - has all the diesel weight with the larger turbo and more complex emissions system. The 147 petrol isnt far behind because it too is a complex engine with plenty of valves and big manifolds etc. Add to that the luxury models having all the extra weight of climatronic and bigger wheels, even the weight of nice upholsery if you have leather (is that an option?) and things get heavy.

According to my info, if you want a lightweigh octy, you should have gone for one ofthe low power european models - like the 1.4l 59kw petrol with 5 speed manual - 1230 liftback and 1245 for the combi.

[brad]

weird how all that extra air space in the cylinders weighs so much.......

[gldgti]

weird how all that extra air space in the cylinders weighs so much.......

The difference in bore between the 2.0 and the 1.9 tdi's is pretty small (they have the same stroke) and each cylinder is only about 22.5cc bigger.... thats less than 200grams difference if the block was exaclty the same in all other respects

Whereas, the 8V head is a fair bit more compact than the 16V and weighs a lot less. The biggest weight differences are in the gearboxes though.

[brad]

how do you know that the 22.5cc of air weighs 200grams?........

[cbay]

to add to the list, according to the brochure, tare mass/weight for octavia 90tsi wagon/(DSG) are 1405 / 1425.

[zei20t]

how do you know that the 22.5cc of air weighs 200grams?........

unfortunately he is way off lol

1cc of air = 0.013g at sea level i think 20 degrees celcius.

22.5cc x 0.013 = 0.29g

i think the difference has already been stated enough times, gearbox, manifolds and ancillaries would make up a bulk of the weight differences

[brad]

guys
it's a mechanics joke (like a dad's joke but stupider). I'm not being serious.

[dArK5HaD0w]

My info seems very different from yours Darkshadow

to add to the list, according to the brochure, tare mass/weight for octavia 90tsi wagon/(DSG) are 1405 / 1425.

the figures i got r from the latest brochures on the skoda oz website, and are the 'tare mass (kg)'.
- octavia brochure (sept 2011)
- octavia rs brochure (sept 2011)

[gldgti]

how do you know that the 22.5cc of air weighs 200grams?........

heh, sorry should have been clearer... 22.5cc per cylinder, comes from 90cc total (the difference between the 2.0l tdi and the 1.9 is 90cc - 1986-1896).

Anyway, 90cc of STEEL weighs about 200g.... so basically all i was saying is that if you bored out a 1.9 block to 2.0l (to the exact size they are from VW) the 2.0L block would only be about 200grams lighter.

[gldgti]

guys
it's a mechanics joke (like a dad's joke but stupider). I'm not being serious.

I couldnt hear your sarcasm over the internet

[gldgti]

the figures i got r from the latest brochures on the skoda oz website, and are the 'tare mass (kg)'.
- octavia brochure (sept 2011)
- octavia rs brochure (sept 2011)

The numbers I have are from the cars user manual..... would be interested to see if the ones in your user manual are the same as the brochure.

[Mysticality]

Don't forget the 22PSI of boost... If the turbo is roughly 16 square inches, thats a total of 774.4kg!!

Actually, I've been recently wondering if its possible to bore out the heads on the TDI to make it a 2.2 or so.
I'm still a bit antsy that my new shiny European sports wagon has less power/torque/capacity than my Kia SUV that I traded in.
125kW/350Nm/2.0ltr
146kW/436Nm/2.2ltr
I know its just bragging rights, but hey!!

[zei20t]

youd probably want to bore the cylinders and not the heads for a large displacement lol

also, a stroker kit would make things easier!

[Mysticality]

also, a stroker kit would make things easier!

Who do we talk to about developing this?