2011 vrs fabia

[Lucas_R]

But then going have issue with dsg again and intake it known for the 2.0 tsi I am thinking more ralliart now awd hatch but have to save pennies

Well perhaps...it depends. The 6 speed DSG used in the more powerfull Golf models is a stronger and better designed box than the 7 speed unit used in the less powerfull Golf's and Polo's.

The Ralliart Lancer might be a good choice to consider as you have mentioned. I understand you need to have a automatic/DSG type gearbox, which is something they offer (basically Mitsubishi's version of DSG), and it should have enough power and grip to satisfy you...as long as you dont mind the reduction in general quality of the interior etc. The Ralliart Lancers were around $40k when new (give or take a few thousand for options etc) so you should be able to pick up a used one for under $30k these days surely.

[woofy]

I was planning on getting the Ralliart Lancer when they first came out, then had a new model Lancer as a hire car and wanted to drive it off a cliff. I then got the Skoda Octavia RS and have had 4.5 great years with it so far. Such a better car.

[passat08]

You can't really compare normal lancer to ralliart as one turbo the other not one awd the other not. I would be looking new one not second hand

[Lucas_R]

You can't really compare normal lancer to ralliart as one turbo the other not one awd the other not. I would be looking new one not second hand

From a performance point of view you are correct, but in terms of the actual vehicle (interior / plastics / general quality) its the same car. Given how few of them are on the roads, i think that answers the question of how good they were....

[woofy]

Yep it was nothing to do with the driving dynamics as of course the Ralliart would be better. The ergonomics and the crappy boot space really put us off, and the general cheapness overall. The Ralliart was much the same. Was disappointing seeing as it was looking good being a poormans Evo....but you can't polish a turd...

[passat08]

If u look at the hatch compared to sedan the hatch actually lighter the seats they have in the new evo are heavy which make the car heavier. But understand what talking bout there is alot of plastics in the car.

[Dutch77]

If you're looking at a new Ralliart then why not be considering a cheaper mk6 GTI or similar priced competitors like the Opel etc?

[passat08]

Only have 5 years on drivetrain with vw 10yearz on the ralliart. Dsg more problems. Tsi intake manifold problems. Dont gry me wrong love the vw just alot of problems

[gavs]

2011 vrs fabia

The ralliart is just a vrx lancer with a couple of bumpers, a bonnet an the awd drivetrain and turbo motor.

I looked at one and after driving it I was glad to hand the Kay's bak to the dealership. The DCT (same as dsg mate) in the ralliart was terrible, vw have done a much better job with theirs and its like chalk and cheese. The suspension is the same as the vrx and is dynamically offensive. I went for a drive up mount dandenong in it and aside from the constant tyre squeal, the seats are about as supportive as a church pew which is fantastic considering the amount of body roll, the thing would almost lift the inside wheels in corners!

Seriously, if you are in the market for a bloody good performance hatch without the hassles, buy an Opel corsa OPC or the renaultSport Clio.

[passat08]

I need auto cant drive manual

[Transporter]

Only have 5 years on drivetrain with vw 10yearz on the ralliart. Dsg more problems. Tsi intake manifold problems. Dont gry me wrong love the vw just alot of problems

You most likelly will find out that the Mitsubishi, actually any other brand have their own fair share of the faults and the problems.

[brad]

Tsi intake manifold problems.

Link to info please? I wasn't aware of this.

[passat08]

You going to have to search it sorry

[brad]

You going to have to search it sorry

Gosh. Thanks for the help. You're a real asset to the forum.

[Lucas_R]

Link to info please? I wasn't aware of this.

Ive read a few instances recently of it happening on the 2.0TSI engines Brad. Both on this forum, "the other" Golf forum and also on Vortex. It seems to be only on the current 2.0TSI.

Some links ive found quickly below:

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f112/new-intake-manifold-flap-issue-83245.html

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f97/intake-manifold-flap-position-sensor-error-86267.html