Old school audis

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[Nick_80]

common guys - back on the topic!

[Jarred]

common guys - back on the topic!

good thinking agent 80. I jsut rememberd i had a couple pics I found from the other day,. THough I'd put em up.
btw not that I even know what models they are!!











I so want one of those orange ones!!!

[ValveBounce]

Great Pics Nick80, I never knew there was a two door Fox!!! And am so glad to see a 80 (aka 5+5) 2 door in race spec!!!

My uncle used to own a VW Audi BMW specialist years ago and he told me how the 5+5 (80) came as Quattro before the 'Quattro' came out, but you were only able to buy that model in Germany. (The Quattro was based on the 5+5 (80) floor plan)
I wonder if the 80 (5+5) came in a 2 door?
And, where can I get hold of the bits to convert my 5+5 (80) into a Quattro. (My uncle has told me its posible by just bolting the parts straight up) Does anyone here have experience in that type of mod, ide really appreciate some feed back on this before I start buying parts from over seas. Thanks

Again, great pics Nick!!!!

[Jarred]

Great Pics Nick80, I never knew there was a two door Fox!!! And am so glad to see a 80 (aka 5+5) 2 door in race spec!!!

My uncle used to own a VW Audi BMW specialist years ago and he told me how the 5+5 (80) came as Quattro before the 'Quattro' came out, but you were only able to buy that model in Germany. (The Quattro was based on the 5+5 (80) floor plan)
I wonder if the 80 (5+5) came in a 2 door?
And, where can I get hold of the bits to convert my 5+5 (80) into a Quattro. (My uncle has told me its posible by just bolting the parts straight up) Does anyone here have experience in that type of mod, ide really appreciate some feed back on this before I start buying parts from over seas. Thanks

Again, great pics Nick!!!!

you'd need to get running gear froma quattro, I believe. But um, yea, good luck with that... Tim (golfworx) breiflty flirted with the idea, but he deemed it too expensive, and complicated though. ( from memory, but don't quote me)

It would be tough to do, but Uber cool!!

[evorobin]

No way that was awd he obviously shopped the floorpan

[ValveBounce]

you'd need to get running gear froma quattro, I believe. But um, yea, good luck with that... Tim (golfworx) breiflty flirted with the idea, but he deemed it too expensive, and complicated though. ( from memory, but don't quote me)

It would be tough to do, but Uber cool!!

Yeah, My uncle said the best bet Ide have is to get someone who speaks fluent german and contact a german wrecker to see what I can find. He also had aspirations of doing the same, but then he bought a house...
I get the bus or a lift to work, so a dead car doesnt bother me, but two...(Anyone want a MKI in primer? haha)

[16v80]

It is possible to convert a fwd Audi 80 or 5+5 to quattro but you will need all this to do it properly, by the way it is not a BOLT on affair

Front Anti-rollbar
Front Anti-rollbar drop links
Front subframe
Brake proportioning valve and mounting bracket
Exhaust Manifold
Exhaust downpipe
quattro Gearbox
Gearshifter mechanism
Gearshifter boot, lever and knob
Clutch assembly
Pedal box
Hydrolic clutch assembly
Propshaft/tailshaft assembly
Front driveshafts
Front-to-rear brake line
Handbrake lever and boot
Center exhaust box
Rear exhaust box
Underbody heatshields
Rear subframe
Rear Differential assembly
Rear driveshafts
Rear calipers
Rear disks
Rear Strut assemblies
Handbrake cables
Brakeline T piece
Rear brake hoses
Rear screen (quattro script in heater element)
Rear side windows (quattro decals)
Petrol tank
Trunk / Boot carpets
Cabin carpets, front and rear
Fuel accumulator
Fuel pump and fuel pipe protection covers
4 new wheels/alloys as quattro's are 4x108 stud pattern

Now you also need the lower front bulkhead assembly from a quattro. The ENTIRE floorpan from the quattro. You also need the bootfloor from a quattro. Plus the rear inner wheel arches with the correct upper strut mount locations. From a quattro.

So if you can aquire all this parts you're also going to need access to some sort of frame rebuilding jig, as half the bodyshell has to be cut out.
Strip pretty much everything off the 80 or 5+5. Cut out the lower front bulkhead, the floor pan, and the trunk floor. And the rear inner wheel arches.
Weld in all the replacement parts. Repaint, and then all you have to do is to re-assemble the entire car.............

Also if you want to go 5 cylinder 10v or 20v you will need to cut the engine mounts out of the quattro, as the 5 cylinder doesnt bolt to the subframe like the 4 cylinder does.

Like I said its possible, I thought long and hard about doing it to mine when i was in the UK, even had a damaged 90 quattro lined up, but in the end i decided my Audi 80 was to good to cut up, you would be better of trying to find a type 85 Audi 90 quattro and putting the small 80 or 5+5 bumpers on it,
There was a 1985 Audi 90 quattro on ebay a while ago, jap import,red,5cylinder it didnt sell so maybe still available??

Hope that helps
Ian

[16v80]

No way that was awd he obviously shopped the floorpan

Well sort off, what he did was put the type 81/fox body on a shortened type 85 quattro chassis,
What the owner did is quite mad, you should see the build photo's
There is a huge build up thread, will look for it

[Jarred]

Well sort off, what he did was put the type 81/fox body on a shortened type 85 quattro chassis,
What the owner did is quite mad, you should see the build photo's
There is a huge build up thread, will look for it

yea chuck us a link if you can find it!!

[ValveBounce]

After work today I went through the 'Caroliner' (Caroliner is a vehicle pulling/measuring system) index and printed out the data sheets for 3 Audi 80's, and 2 Quattro's.
What I discovered was very interesting. Both the 80 and Quattro (even up to 85-86 models) are the same in specs up until the 'Centering point' (where the car is first measured / where trailing arms meet the floor). Its only after the centering point that the rear rail sections and everything joined is different. Wheel base is the same, but the sedan (80) has a longer boot floor from what I am reading.

Does anybody on here own or know someone who owns an original Quattro? And if you do, could you please ask the owner kindly if they are willing to bring there car in to my work for a couple hours to let me measure it? (A Saturday)
The car will be put on the Caroliner, but will not be clamped, only measured.
(A bonus for the owner to see how strait there car really is)

I am willing to pay the owner of the car being measured, and as long as its ok with the boss, am willing to demonstrate to other VW Watercoolers how a car is measured before its pulled back into shape.

Ide really appreciate any feedback!

[Nick_80]

new to the garage,

[Jarred]

nice!

are they late model polo wheels??

More infor and pics please!

[evorobin]

nice!

are they late model polo wheels??

Previous owner was a tosser putting those on a classic vehicle. Nice find.

edit I have GTI steelies with caps and new tyres if you want to correct it mate!

[Nick_80]

i put those wheels on that 'classic', stock wheels handle and look like s*#t,
no one gives a rat for a full original ts passat