Brisbane Dyno Day Results

[GT3]

In terms of Polos - if there's any more dyno days down south, Flaps has got Sydney covered and I got Melbourne covered. The MPS3s may have won the battle in Brissy but they haven't won the war Before I rock up, I'll be loading the APR race program (mental high boost), filling the tank with "real" race gas and pulling 170+ atw

If Kai had turned up with his sick pod set-up and cranked up the watts on his multiple amp stereo while on the dyno rollers, he would have given the MPS3s a solid whooping ha ha ha

[ranton-inc]

Ouch Trezza

I thought mine was low at 158kw..

have you had your ECU software updated by the dealerships


and replaced your MAF and Coolant Sensor..

this have huge impacts on power production..

im getting mine redynoed soon..

so will get new dyno sheet and old dyno sheet reprinted at the dyno place

[shaneth]

Ouch Trezza

I thought mine was low at 158kw..

Whats the R32 put out standard, 177kw@ fly????

If so your only loosing 19kw or 11 percent???

Or is that only reading the Front wheels, how does the awd system in the R32 work??? Only drives front wheels predominatly and cuts rear in when they slip, or is there constant drive to the rear wheels??

edit - dont worry i know the dyno isnt definitive but im curious about how it works. Its like the mazda 3 mps that lost 18kw in the drive train in this dyno day. Interesting.

[Treza360]

Whats the R32 put out standard, 177kw@ fly????

If so your only loosing 19kw or 11 percent???

Or is that only reading the Front wheels, how does the awd system in the R32 work??? Only drives front wheels predominatly and cuts rear in when they slip, or is there constant drive to the rear wheels??

edit - dont worry i know the dyno isnt definitive but im curious about how it works. Its like the mazda 3 mps that lost 18kw in the drive train in this dyno day. Interesting.

That Mazda was running V-Power racing (100 RON) but still it was a hell of difference compared to stock on normal fuel.

Hitman's car has quite a few mods done to it but I'm still looking forward to when he gets it dynoed again to confirm this figure.

What I'd be very interested in is for my car to run back to back dynos with the Haldex connected as per yesterday and then disconnected so all power is going to the front wheels. I'd imagine that like the Polos and other Golfs the losses are going to be much less.

[Sixie]

Or is that only reading the Front wheels, how does the awd system in the R32 work??? Only drives front wheels predominatly and cuts rear in when they slip, or is there constant drive to the rear wheels??

I've been trying to work that one out to, I was always told that drive only went to the rear on slipage at the front, but the rears were definately going around when the Bora was on the Dnyo on Saturday?

Maybe the Dnyo makes the system think there is slippage?

Anyone know?

One day I will find someone who actually knows.

Although I have to say as much as 133 ATW in a polo would be fun can you actually get it to the ground?

[Jaymz]

What I'd be very interested in is for my car to run back to back dynos with the Haldex connected as per yesterday and then disconnected so all power is going to the front wheels.

Have done this with a highly moddified R32 GTR. A relay can be pulled in the R32 which will make it rear wheel drive only. The GTR has R200 diffs, which is what they call the japanese 9 inch. Those diffs can handle over 800Hp.
What was surprising is that it made no difference, well 1kw but that is the normal difference you get for heat soak.

Would be very surprised if it makes a difference on yours.
Let us know how you go.

[G60JAY]

Looks like everyone had a good day. Kicking myself I could not make it!

[ranton-inc]

A relay can be pulled in the R32 which will make it rear wheel drive only.
Let us know how you go.

Incorrect

a relay can be pulled to make the R32 FWD only

as the rear wheels are engaged by a wet clutch in the electronically controlled transfer box.


where as the front wheels are driven off the differential that is inline with the transfer box

This is my dyno chart


Ignore the torque figure.

it is a multiplication of the actuall torque figure (due to Gear and final Drive Ratios between the outputshaft of the engine and the wheels of the vehicle

[Treza360]

Incorrect
a relay can be pulled to make the R32 FWD only

I think he was talking about an R32 Skyline GTR?

[ranton-inc]

I think he was talking about an R32 Skyline GTR?

oh well sorry! lol

when i tell some people i have a R32 golf they go "oh aye bro why did you put a RB26 in it.." at which point i tell em to **** off..

but trezzy.. i answerd your question about how the 4wd drives in the R..

[kinezo]

im sorry. but i feel sorry for the 2 S3 to recieve such a poor tune, that the actual dyno operator had to shut their dyno down because it was running lean! with a properly tuned software you generally never need to do such a drastic move.
and i think those figures are below stock, isnt it?

and COME ON APR! the stock mazda mps killed the S3!!!!

[shaneth]

im sorry. but i feel sorry for the 2 S3 to recieve such a poor tune, that the actual dyno operator had to shut their dyno down because it was running lean! with a properly tuned software you generally never need to do such a drastic move.
and i think those figures are below stock, isnt it?

and COME ON APR! the stock mazda mps killed the S3!!!!

Umm dont be so hasty to blame the tune, what afr are s3's running on the dyno elsewhere. The dyno operators (who mainly do skylines, sylvia's ) said it was to lean for there liking.
And of course it ws below stock as there run was cut short, you answered your own question.

This thread is not about bagging a tuning company out, the full facts are needed first.

[ranton-inc]

Hey Guys

Re S3s

my mates non facelift S3 dynoed 168kw at the Wheels

That was with Peter from Superchips special Map

if you want the same map

ask him about the power map he made for Steve from Eurosport.org.nz

I dont think his S3 ran above 14.8 parts Air to 1 part fuel

it actually ran relativly rich ie sub 14.5

[ranton-inc]

I've been trying to work that one out to, I was always told that drive only went to the rear on slipage at the front, but the rears were definately going around when the Bora was on the Dnyo on Saturday?

Maybe the Dnyo makes the system think there is slippage?

Anyone know?

One day I will find someone who actually knows.

Although I have to say as much as 133 ATW in a polo would be fun can you actually get it to the ground?

The Rears do run but have a lag in initiating due to the electronic control over the system

They do have drive.

Pre Face Lift S3's and Standard MKIV R32s have no problems running on the dyno! they came with good haldex computers

However Face Lift S3s thou they came with better suspention they seemed to get a crap Haldex controller which caused the front wheels to launch off then the rears to engage really late which then wreaks complete havoc with the balance of the car when its on the dyno and it bucks around before settling and then cleanly accelerating to red line (provided its not running lean and pinking)

WTH?

[-Polo GTI-]: 30000kms on the clock
tosspot: 4200kms on the clock

A few people mentioned that my car is still new so won't be putting out as much power as it could. Also, the guy on the dyno stuffed up I think.. my 2nd run only pulled 106kw... wtf?

I'm slightly annoyed that I pulled less, let's hope it is because my car's new.

What the heck

your bickering over measly 2kw?

I would put it down to the Tyres your car is wearing and the pressure you are running in the driven wheels.. all these effect dyno results!

yeah cheers shaneth, was a good day.
NOTE: please keep in mind people that it seemed as though the dyno was running low figures today. we had a modded HSV GTS pulling 256kwatw. do the figures and that makes 307kw at the fly

How do you know it was reading low?

Has he run on that exact same dyno before.. with the same weather conditions?

has it read higher..?

Those HSVs never produce exactly what their power labels claim..

never!

[Sixie]

I would put it down to the Tyres your car is wearing and the pressure you are running in the driven wheels.. all these effect dyno results!

I was wondering what sort of effect this was likely to have, as I have nitrous in my tyrers the guys running the Dnyo were unable to alter the pressure.

It seems the other cars were running much higher PSI?