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  • Could this be a sign of thing's to come!!!

    This engine & invention is truely remarkable & could change the face of motoring & all sort's of industry's if picked up!

    Imagine the performance industry! Throw one in the back of a beetle! haha

    The basic 14" engine capacity is 850ci & makes 850hp! 814ft/lb at 850rpm!!!!!

    It makes more power at idle, than most current super car's at full throttle!



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    It also has the potential to run at 150miles a gallon!

    The prototype version is also running on diesel/bio diesel

    That 814ft/lbs was with 150psi of air pressure too. No combustion!

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    Very interesting stuff! If it takes off I'll be very impressed. This is the sort of engine that's probably work best in a deisel-electric vehicle where the motor can run at it's optimal revs.
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    • #3
      Simply Awsome!
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      • #4
        Sorry, but put me down as a skeptic: "If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is ! "
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        • #5
          Originally posted by gregozedobe View Post
          Sorry, but put me down as a skeptic: "If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is ! "
          They got it to work and they spent over 4million dollars on it. It would be one expensive gimic both in time and financialy.
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          • #6
            Yeah, I've been thinking about it and something doesn't quite fit. I think the 2 biggest questions I have are:

            1) How is this engine going to deliver all this power to a gearbox? With making the engine smallet, you have to make the crank shaft smaller too don't you? Whatever the crank is made of is going to have to be able to handle the torque output by the engine, otherwise it's just going to shear and remndering the engine design useless.

            2) Like the rotary engine, this looks like it'll be a fairly thirsty beast. I can't see how it's going to be more efficient than a standard 4-stroke engine. We'll see though.
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            • #7
              If it's so good, why hasn't it made more press or been mass-produced yet etc etc. It's been around a while.
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              • #8
                i looked it up, they ran out of developement funds.

                Its now going into production I believe
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GoLfMan View Post
                  i looked it up, they ran out of developement funds.

                  Its now going into production I believe
                  Looks like a whole load of hype, but no feasible product. I have yet to see one with any fuel in it
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                  • #10
                    Cooling it is going to be a huge issue - if you have that "32 cylinders" combusting in that small space - how are they going to get rid of all the heat?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arctra View Post
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                      2) Like the rotary engine, this looks like it'll be a fairly thirsty beast. I can't see how it's going to be more efficient than a standard 4-stroke engine. We'll see though.
                      did you miss this bit maybe??

                      Originally posted by golfworx View Post
                      ....

                      It also has the potential to run at 150miles a gallon!

                      ...
                      I think there's heaps of possibilities. like havingthe first electric/ hybrid-electric car, it'll take a while for manufacturors and customers to become used to the concept, but once a few problems are sorted & it becomes a production ready engine, it could single handedly change the face of the auto/transport industry!


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                      • #12
                        Yes please..

                        If they actually had the design finished and ready for production you would think one of the big auto manufacturers would have picked it up long ago.. Right?

                        The conspiracy theory side of me says the oil companys being in bed with the auto companys wouldn't allow such an efficiency & power to reach the mainstream market because it would kill the market for everyone else who didn't have access to the technology.

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                        • #13
                          Very cool!

                          A newer video here, its just an interview, but is pretty current where the others are from 2005ish.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Goon View Post
                            Yes please..

                            If they actually had the design finished and ready for production you would think one of the big auto manufacturers would have picked it up long ago.. Right?

                            The conspiracy theory side of me says the oil companys being in bed with the auto companys wouldn't allow such an efficiency & power to reach the mainstream market because it would kill the market for everyone else who didn't have access to the technology.
                            It might make a good air pump/compressor.

                            I read a few engineering opinions about using this design as an internal combustion engine. One of the big problems was making pistons the right shape (they are like a segment of a donut), and getting a seal for the pressures involved with combustion was a big issue too (anyone here old enough to remember the seal problems the early wankel rotary engines had ? ) It remains to be seen whether it will be able to pass the very strict emissions test we have these days (IIRC that is what really put the kibosh on Sarich's orbital engine some years ago)

                            If it was really that good one of the large or small car or truck manufacturers would have picked it up already. Companies will do almost anything these days to get an advantage over their competitors.
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