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  • My bad experience at Camden GTI

    Hi All,

    I bought a used Skoda Octavia RS yesterday in Sydney, and flew up to drive it home to Melbourne.

    I'd had a pre-purchase inspection which picked up that there wasn't a lot of oil registering on the dipstick. The seller hadn't driven the car much this year, and supposedly had the 45km service done earlier in the year, but it wasn't stamped in the book, so I figured I should get an oil change before driving it home to Melbourne. I then planned to get a dealer service done when I got home. Essentially I just wanted to make sure there was oil in the car so I didn't cook it driving home.

    I rang Camden GTI on the basis that they seem well regarded on this forum. The woman I spoke to said they could do an oil change, and to just drop in. So I did drop in yesterday afternoon. The boss wasn't there, only the mechanics, and I explained the situation and that I just wanted an oil and filter change.

    They didn't have a hoist free, so they jacked up the front and about 45-50 mins later they were done.

    When it came to paying, the mechanic asked if I'd be given a quote, but I explained I'd only been told labour is $110 per hour plus the cost of the oil and filter etc. I figured I'd be up for $200 or so.

    I was then told that their fixed price oil service is $315. I questioned this, and he phoned the boss who confirmed that's their fixed price.

    So I was given an invoice for $315, which included the following items:

    exhaust system inspection - not done
    electric system inspection - not done
    engine belt wear inspection - not sure if it was done
    Engine oil flush - done
    OEM filter replacement - done
    VCDS on-board diagnostics - apparently done
    air filter clean or replacement - not replaced, don't think they cleaned it either
    service reminder reset - done
    30 point safety check, including brake system, tyre inflation, suspension components, system fluid levels, lighting systems - not done

    So not only did they charge me for work that I didn't want done, they didn't even do the work anyway! My instructions were clear, I just wanted an oil/filter change. But their attitude seemed to be that they only do a fixed price service, and if I only wanted half the service I was still going to pay for a full service. If they had explained this to me first I would have gone elsewhere.

    As it turned out the sump plug wasn't tight, hence the low oil. But I now wish I'd just bought a litre or two of oil from the servo to get me home, and then had a full dealer service in Melbourne, as I would rather have put the $315 towards a proper dealer service.

    You can draw your own conclusions about whether I was ripped-off blind and taken advantage of, and whether this is the sort of business you'd want to deal with. I know what I think!
    now: 2008 Octavia RS TSI manual sedan, yellow, Stage 1 tune, 185kw.
    before: MY11 RS TSI manual wagon, race blue, sunroof, tint, MDI
    '74 Alfa Romeo GTV 2000 - mint
    '70 Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlina - project

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    It's the best to talk to the supervisor first, even it is the next day, before posting here.

    My local dealership for example is also in my opinion sometimes a bit 'odd', but instead of 'naming and shaming' I tend to call up the service manager and point out what went wrong. This way I have already solved a couple of issues I had with my cars after they were at the dealership for various reasons.

    Also Camden GTI has such a good reputation on here that I doubt your post will make anybody think twice before going there.

    Again calling up and explaining what went wrong to the supervisor should always be the first step.


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    • #3
      Decent customer service would be the first step
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      • #4
        Originally posted by gecko2k View Post
        It's the best to talk to the supervisor first, even it is the next day, before posting here.

        My local dealership for example is also in my opinion sometimes a bit 'odd', but instead of 'naming and shaming' I tend to call up the service manager and point out what went wrong. This way I have already solved a couple of issues I had with my cars after they were at the dealership for various reasons.

        Also Camden GTI has such a good reputation on here that I doubt your post will make anybody think twice before going there.

        Again calling up and explaining what went wrong to the supervisor should always be the first step.


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        Well I tried to explain my point when I was there, and then the mechanic rang the owner to check the situation. I got a very strong sense that he wasn't much interested in discussing it. Hence I posted on here.
        now: 2008 Octavia RS TSI manual sedan, yellow, Stage 1 tune, 185kw.
        before: MY11 RS TSI manual wagon, race blue, sunroof, tint, MDI
        '74 Alfa Romeo GTV 2000 - mint
        '70 Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlina - project

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        • #5
          After the (complete lack of) customer service I received from them I will not deal with them or refer anyone to them.

          Real shame as I would prefer to give my business to a site sponsor.
          08 Golf GTI - SOLD

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          • #6
            Sounds like extremely poor customer service and a blatant ripoff.

            Interested to hear what the owner of Camden GTI would post in his defence.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Damo105 View Post
              Well I tried to explain my point when I was there, and then the mechanic rang the owner to check the situation. I got a very strong sense that he wasn't much interested in discussing it. Hence I posted on here.
              How much did you want to pay? Or what did you think it would cost you?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                How much did you want to pay? Or what did you think it would cost you?
                Well they quoted $110 per hour for labour, and I figured it was reasonable to charge me one hour labour even if it took less time, plus the oil and filter. I was expecting oil to be about $70 and maybe $30 for the filter, so I thinking it would be $200ish.
                now: 2008 Octavia RS TSI manual sedan, yellow, Stage 1 tune, 185kw.
                before: MY11 RS TSI manual wagon, race blue, sunroof, tint, MDI
                '74 Alfa Romeo GTV 2000 - mint
                '70 Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlina - project

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Damo105 View Post
                  Well they quoted $110 per hour for labour, and I figured it was reasonable to charge me one hour labour even if it took less time, plus the oil and filter. I was expecting oil to be about $70 and maybe $30 for the filter, so I thinking it would be $200ish.
                  I'm sure it took longer than 50 minutes. There are also charges for oil and the waste disposal as well and to connect diagnostic equipment to reset service interval take some time too. I suppose you wouldn't like, if they didn't reset the service reminder, would you?

                  Just a question. You said, you wish you've bought the oil and drove to Melbourne; I just wonder how far would you get, when the drain plug wasn't tight and was leaking oil?

                  If it was me, I would just be just happy that they fitted me in and saved me troubles on the way home, the loss of oil and seized engine could cost you a far bit.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                    If it was me, I would just be just happy that they fitted me in and saved me troubles on the way home, the loss of oil and seized engine could cost you a far bit.
                    All well and good but they charged him for a standard service when they didn't do a full standard service. I'd be p1ssed off too. The straight labour plus parts charge would have come out $100 cheaper, there's his petrol plus drinks and a feed for the drive back to Melbourne.

                    I've never been to a workshop who can't work out their charges based on what they've done, and haven't done.

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                    • #11
                      I wonder if Camden GTI would be defended if they weren't a sponsor?

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                      • #12
                        No beef against Camden but I'd expect $220 for an oil change.... Act is expensive but even vw dealer wouldn't charge that much here let alone cvwc.
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                        • #13
                          Yeah, the shop made a mistake. I for many years now, don't do just an oil changes, if you want just an oil change and nothing else, then go elswhere, I don't want to be blamed and explaining myself, when the crash investigators find the service invoice in your car's glovebox with my name on it.

                          It's not just on, how some people talk about going to the dealer for "a proper service" or shall I repeat the OP's words "rather pay to the dealer $315 for a proper service" and then come to the forum that is run by independent VW shop for the advice and even complain about them.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                            Yeah, the shop made a mistake. I for many years now, don't do just an oil changes, if you want just an oil change and nothing else, then go elswhere, I don't want to be blamed and explaining myself, when the crash investigators find the service invoice in your car's glovebox with my name on it.

                            It's not just on, how some people talk about going to the dealer for "a proper service" or shall I repeat the OP's words "rather pay to the dealer $315 for a proper service" and then come to the forum that is run by independent VW shop for the advice and even complain about them.

                            Fair to say you don't take criticism or even feedback from customers very well. The guy made a complaint on valid terms- i don't think bullying him, like you are now, is doing your business any favours.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shortshifter View Post
                              Fair to say you don't take criticism or even feedback from customers very well. The guy made a complaint on valid terms- i don't think bullying him, like you are now, is doing your business any favours.
                              ...and you'e made your assumptions on the one side story only.
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