Michelin Pilot Sport 4!

[Tuan]

Smart .. i just say the mechanic in the same complex sent me

[Amalgam]

FYI some buy 4 specials for Christmas.

235/45/17 for my MY12 Passat.

Michelin PS4 $185, buy 4 get $100 cash back

Michelin PS3 $156. buy 4 get $100 cash back

Bridgestone RE003 $169, buy 4 get one free.

From Bob Jane, but it is an Oz wide sale..

[Arkanoid007]

UPDATE:

There are currently two deals going round:

1) Bridgestone buy 3 get 1 free
2) Michelin $100 deduction when you buy 4

So based on Jax Tyres price for 225 40 R18

Bridgestone RE003 (92W) - $681
Michelin PS4 (92Y) - $896

I recently went into Bob Jane regarding the Michelins. Initially offered them for $259 each but were willing to beat Jax Tyres once I mentioned them - so I could get them for $245 each.

What I also noticed on the Jax Tyres website, it shows "Michelin Pilot Sport 4 ST". After digging around I found out that the "ST" means "Silence Tuned". Any ideas if these are different to the PS4 or is it all the same?

I'm leaning towards buying the Michelins but a $200 saving on the Bridgestone is quite bit. Our car (Golf R MK6) is used for general driving purposes with slight fun around the corners at times (which is why the stock RE050A have lasted us 60K lol!)

I will need to ask for the DOT (manufacture date) on the tyres I choose as long as they are not more than 1yr old.

Decisions decisions...

[Arkanoid007]

Ok so I pulled the trigger on the Michelin PS4s.

$240 per tyre and $55 for all wheel alignment at Bob Jane TMarts. Final price, $915 after $100 Michelin promotion. Will let you know how they drive after I've done some km's on the first.

[Splashalot]

FWIW I had a set of PS4s on my Mk5 Golf GTI but ditched them for another set of ContiSportContact 5. I'm pretty fussy on ride and the PS4s were just too stiff and crashy on my Mk5. I dropped pressures as low as I was prepared to go but they were still still too harsh for me and the roads I frequent. CSC5 have that bit more compliance but similar performance, albeit not quite as tactile in steering response. The PS4 is the best tyre I've ever used in that respect.

I reckon the PS4 would be utterly brilliant on a Mk7 GTI, given that model's better suspension compliance.

[Amalgam]

FWIW I had a set of PS4s on my Mk5 Golf GTI but ditched them for another set of ContiSportContact 5. I'm pretty fussy on ride and the PS4s were just too stiff and crashy on my Mk5. I dropped pressures as low as I was prepared to go but they were still still too harsh for me and the roads I frequent. CSC5 have that bit more compliance but similar performance, albeit not quite as tactile in steering response. The PS4 is the best tyre I've ever used in that respect.

I reckon the PS4 would be utterly brilliant on a Mk7 GTI, given that model's better suspension compliance.

Thanks. Good to know.

I will have to purchase a set of 4 for the Passat before Christmas, and ride comfort is more important than pin sharp steering. Might look at the PS3 which are at a great price and have the $100 cashback, although I really like the CSC5 which are OE fitment.

[Splashalot]

Thanks. Good to know.

I will have to purchase a set of 4 for the Passat before Christmas, and ride comfort is more important than pin sharp steering. Might look at the PS3 which are at a great price and have the $100 cashback, although I really like the CSC5 which are OE fitment.

PS3 are great in that respect. I've just put a 2nd set on our Euro Accord. Very happy with them as a touring/performance tyre. The PS4 is a very different tyre to the PS3 - much more hard-edged and performance focused. CSC5 probably halfway between them in comfort, but in terms of performance pretty close to PS4 in most respects.

[putney40]

FWIW I had a set of PS4s on my Mk5 Golf GTI but ditched them for another set of ContiSportContact 5. I'm pretty fussy on ride and the PS4s were just too stiff and crashy on my Mk5. I dropped pressures as low as I was prepared to go but they were still still too harsh for me and the roads I frequent. CSC5 have that bit more compliance but similar performance, albeit not quite as tactile in steering response. The PS4 is the best tyre I've ever used in that respect.

I reckon the PS4 would be utterly brilliant on a Mk7 GTI, given that model's better suspension compliance.

Just fitted a set of PS4's to my 2013 Superb TDI. Agree with your comments on stiffer sidewalls compared to the P7's OEM fits anyway. Certainly a firmer ride and road surface feedback that was not present before. Best part is the marked reduction in tyre noise! Also like the more precise steering feel and more connected response to steering input.

[Arkanoid007]

Love the PS4s so far! Wet or dry they grip the road brilliantly and just want the car to push back into straight line. The sales guy also offered me the contisportcontact 5s but these tires are upper performance and won't last near as much as the PS4s plus the PS4s are a much quiter road tire.

I wasn't looking for super performance tyres - I needed quiet, mid-high performance, long KMs tyres and the PS4s fit my requirements.

The PS3s are a runout tyre which are being superseeded by the PS4s.

As for the stuff ride issue you had Splashalot: if you have a sports car then be prepared for a stiffer ride overall IMO. I drive a MK6 Golf R and the ride is much better than on previous stock Bridgestone RE050A i had. 😀

[Martin]

The PS3 was designed as a budget equivalent, as the PSS was the replacement for the PS2.
(At least - that's how I understand it)
Is the PS4 a replacement for the PSS, or the PS4?

I love my PS3's, but definitely going the PSS next time! (or PS4?!)

Na - the PSS was around for a long time
I'm running PSS now and they are not worth the extra cost

[Splashalot]

Love the PS4s so far! Wet or dry they grip the road brilliantly and just want the car to push back into straight line. The sales guy also offered me the contisportcontact 5s but these tires are upper performance and won't last near as much as the PS4s plus the PS4s are a much quiter road tire.

I wasn't looking for super performance tyres - I needed quiet, mid-high performance, long KMs tyres and the PS4s fit my requirements.

The PS3s are a runout tyre which are being superseeded by the PS4s.

As for the stuff ride issue you had Splashalot: if you have a sports car then be prepared for a stiffer ride overall IMO. . ��

I think maybe you misunderstood my point - I was happy with the ride on CSC5s but unhappy with the ride on PS4s.

I found the PS4 no quieter than the CSC4. At least not on my Mk5 GTI. Your case may be different (ie, different cars, road surfaces etc.).

No arguments about the PS4's grip, though. Especially in the wet. The day I had them fitted we had torrential rain and I was amazed how well the PS4s cut through it. But then the Contis are also outstanding in the wet.

[Amalgam]

For those with an Amex card, here is a link that will save you a further $125 from Bob Janes

https://network.americanexpress.com/connect/au/en/doe_offer_detail.html?offer=GCOR_76400

Stacked with the $100 rebate from Michelin, you could save up to $225 on a set of 4 tyres. Limited to the first 10,000 applications.

Enjoy

[Amalgam]

Just a quick update.

I bought 4x Michelin PS4 for the wife's Passat, using the above deals and saving $225. Bob Jane took $100 off the invoice and I got the $125 credit from Amex in 2 days. The final cost was $129 each.

After 250km of suburban and freeway driving, the PS4 handle as well as the Conti CSC5 that were OE. The tyre noise is similar. The two tyres are so similar that I wouldn't be able the pick the difference in a blind test.

[Amalgam]

Hi All,

After our usual Christmas sojourn, I have travelled 1500km on the Pilot Sport 4 and I am pleased to report as posted above, they were very similar to the OEM Continental CSC5 with possibly a little extra grip and steering sharpness.

[3C4M Guy]

FWIW I had a set of PS4s on my Mk5 Golf GTI but ditched them for another set of ContiSportContact 5. I'm pretty fussy on ride and the PS4s were just too stiff and crashy on my Mk5. I dropped pressures as low as I was prepared to go but they were still still too harsh for me and the roads I frequent. CSC5 have that bit more compliance but similar performance, albeit not quite as tactile in steering response. The PS4 is the best tyre I've ever used in that respect.

I reckon the PS4 would be utterly brilliant on a Mk7 GTI, given that model's better suspension compliance.

I had the opposite experience! I put Michelin PS4s on my Passat before Christmas and was very disappointed. Ride comfort and low noise were brilliant but the sidewalls were far too soft for them to be considered a performance tyre. They were very poor in communicating information to the driver and hopeless in a slalom. I even tried pushing the pressures up to 45 psi but they still felt like mushy marsh mellows.

My mechanic suggested Continentals would be very similar. I got rid of the PS4s and went back to Bridgestone - RE003 this time. They are so much more responsive. Yes they are more noisy with a harsher ride, but that's not important to me.

What does all this say about our opposite experiences with PS4s? I guess tyres are very much a personal preference!