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So They May Have Cheated on the Golf MK7 GTI and R as well

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  • So They May Have Cheated on the Golf MK7 GTI and R as well

    Will be interesting to see the fallout from this post

    VW Golf GTI hot hatch added to emissions cheats

    So how much will this affect the value of those like me that have GTI and VW cars in general in resale. And if it/has been a lie who will join the class action.

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    Just waiting for official confirmation.

    Though, makes me want to avoid taking it to VW for a service - check-list of what they did to the car may have 'Cut Power' added to it...
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    • #3
      Considering the GTI and R are performance models, I think any reduction in power would be serious. People but these cars specifically for their power figures. Didn't Hyundai do the same thing a few years ago? What was that outcome?

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      • #4
        After a recent discussion with a VW service technician he stated that the recalls could well be voluntary. Basically if you don't want it then it is not mandatory. I guess we will see when they have finally unravelled all this mess.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ozram View Post
          After a recent discussion with a VW service technician he stated that the recalls could well be voluntary. Basically if you don't want it then it is not mandatory. I guess we will see when they have finally unravelled all this mess.
          Hope it is. Can't see any GTI or R owner reducing power for any reason.

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          • #6
            My car will be tuned very soon. Couldn't care any less.

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            • #7
              My R hasn't been delivered yet, should be about 4 weeks away and have been so excited for it, this new news makes me worry a bit.
              Seriously considering bailing on it and waiting till the AWD A250 comes out next year.
              Am worried about the resale and possible power drop if the "fix" becomes mandatory.

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              • #8
                Well I collect my R on Friday. Not very happy about this. I just hope the local 'hot weather' de-tune it already has covers off the issue.


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                • #9
                  This article is all about CO2 emissions, not NOx or anything else. CO2 emissions are a direct biproduct of burning fuel - ie the greater the fuel consumption, the greater the CO2 emissions. The "cheating" here involved doing things to artificially lower the fuel consumption figures (and in turn CO2 emissions).

                  This issue is particularly relevant in Europe, where CO2 emissions are linked to registration and insurance tiers. Here in Australia it's much less widely cared-about. Local emissions tests will measure CO2, but AFAIK there are no fail grades for any particular level of CO2 emitted - certainly that's the case in NSW.

                  There will be no recall for this, no power-sapping, no nothing. Relax.
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                  • #10
                    I don't think it's going to be a big issue out here. Not too many people would have complaints on their GTI's fuel economy if mine is anything to go by.

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                    • #11
                      Vw Scandel Spreads to GTI AND R

                      Oh-ohhh. I wonder what this means for us and what will VW offer?



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                      • #12
                        Yep interesting as I got a low interest "green" car loan due to the emissions on the car so that should be interesting if it will impact that...

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                        • #13
                          I can't say emissions ever came into the equation when selecting the R. What concerns me more is VW Australia's treatment of and communication to customers, as this is an indication of how other customer concerns are likely to be handled.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by danielb_c View Post
                            I can't say emissions ever came into the equation when selecting the R. What concerns me more is VW Australia's treatment of and communication to customers, as this is an indication of how other customer concerns are likely to be handled.
                            Couldn't agree more on all points.


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                            • #15
                              Wheels is reporting that there may be a reimbursement for GTI, R and Skoda RS owners if the CO2 emissions figures are found to have been manipulated (to compensate for extra fuel consumed).

                              What annoys me the most is that VW appears to be dragging its feet and is making no attempt to keep its customers informed. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and certainly puts me off the brand. Having said that, I'm happy with my GTI-P, but probably won't consider VW next time I'm in the market for a car.
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