DSG woes in The Age

[ill0gitech]

Seeing as this is an election year...why not all of us email the member responsible?

I think that's the minister for Regional Road Safety, it would likely be the Minister of Transport you need to send it to.

If you're emailing politicians - you can look up your local member here.
On top of that you have the Mike Mrdak - Secretary of Infrastructure and Transport
As well as the current Minister of Transport - Anthony Albanese and since Mr Albanese may not have a job September 15 you have;
the Shadow Minister of Transport (And Leader of The Nationals) - Warren Truss

You also have your state ministries and fair trade bodies.

[Spook]

Now the BRW is taking a business swing at VW:

Volkswagen: why silence can be deadly

BRW is published by Fairfax, so that doesn't surprise me. For a business magazine, there are a few unforgivable typos in that article. see if you can spot them.

“When a brand is silent in an issue like this, the vacume is filled with assumptions being made on social media.”

“But would it be realistic for a company like VW to issue a recall of potentially thousands of card on the assumption that there might be a problem...perhaps not.”

[99_FGT]

We have had about 6 VWs in the family.

4 have been working so far:
Golf V GTI 6DSG (except for the roof lining collapsing and generally easily scratched rubber knobs and switches)
Recently replaced with a 7 103TSI 7DSG Highline mk7 so might be too new to tell
Mk6 77TSI 7DSG MY11
Tiguan MY12 155TSI 7DSG

Two have had problems
Touran 103TSI 7DSG - gearbox failed. Engine shut off and stalled on highway
Jetta 103TSI 7DSG - engine stalled while cruising downhill. The cousin driving it couldn't use the brake. And with the Aircon and radio on she didn't realize the engine stalled. Only discovered it when she was trying to brake reaching end of the hill. She said a prayer and the car finally came to a stop just inches for the front gate of a house at the foot of the hill. It was at about 6am so there was no traffic.

Seems a bit of a crapshoot.

Is there a typo in that, are you overseas, or have you just pulled that from somewhere else? If you don't know why I am asking then... Well.

[Hail22]

BRW is published by Fairfax, so that doesn't surprise me. For a business magazine, there are a few unforgivable typos in that article. see if you can spot them.

“When a brand is silent in an issue like this, the vacume is filled with assumptions being made on social media.”

“But would it be realistic for a company like VW to issue a recall of potentially thousands of card on the assumption that there might be a problem...perhaps not.”

Only a few?

I'm amazed the FIN hasn't written an article yet xD

[Ideo]

While we are at it, are we also going to email in to request that those who tailgate have harsher penalties imposed, as that was the actual cause of death.

The reason why the driver stopped doesn't matter. The truck driver has the overwhelming responsibility for her death. Simple.

Yes, VW needs to deal with the DSG and 118 issues - the DSG issues have been known about for ages, and are one of the reasons I went for the manual, apart from having a penis rather than a set of decorative manbags containing a manicure set, and there have been question marks over their reliability. The 118 was not correctly set up for the Australian market - these issues do not happen anywhere near as frequently in the UK market (and as an aside, I wonder how many problems are caused by drivers filling up the 91 petrol) and needs to be addressed.

But some of the claims (not here necessarily, more in the media) are just starting to get a bit fanciful. Hell. Mine spluttered once and lost power. It was probably a bad batch of fuel as it has never done it again. I'm not quivering in a corner going "OMG I can't drive it, I'm too scared" in the hope of joining a class action to get some free cash.

[brad]

When people say no brakes they literally mean no brakes or the fact that the engines turn off you gota stomp on it a few times requiring arnie like leg pressing?

The latter. Hard firm pressure. Just like driving a HD Holden. Plus you get a few goes of assisted braking due to the vacuum reservoir.

I agree the engine shouldn't stall but if it does then the tacho would go to zero & the dash would light up like a christmas tree. If the sound of the radio makes you oblivious to the lack of engine noises, engine braking etc then maybe the radio is too loud?

[sphere]

Just reading through this thread, I'm a little confused at which cars models/years are having the issue (if any). Is it mostly cars in more recent years or really any model/year VW/Audi etc.? I've got an 06' Gti DSG and I've never experienced any real shudder or limp mode.

[Ideo]

Just reading through this thread, I'm a little confused at which cars models/years are having the issue (if any). Is it mostly cars in more recent years or really any model/year VW/Audi etc.? I've got an 06' Gti DSG and I've never experienced any real shudder or limp mode.

It's every car ever made by VW if you read the comments page of the Age.

Hell - apparently the 97 Golf also has DSG and caused the engine to stop when entering traffic according to one idiot.

Seriously though, the 6spd DSG in yours has some issues for some people. The 7spd DSG has a lot of issues for a lot of people.

If yours is working fine, then it's working fine. Just remember it is an automated manual, and it has a clutch in it. And just like a manual some driving techniques wear the clutch out quicker than others.

[fastlane]

VW's ignorance/denial of the following main issues:

7DSG, 1.4 twinchargers i.e. 118tsi, Polo GTI
Certain diesel engine - injector issue causing engine shutdown

Smaller issues:
DSG's in general

Think that sums it up?

[muli]

Started looking on that AustLII website, found this
EUB Pty Ltd v Audi Australia Pty Ltd (Civil Claims) [2012] VCAT 892 (27 June 2012)

so if I understand correctly Audi was ordered to extend the warranty by two years?

[pologti18t]

Oh ffs, give it a rest.

• It was the truck driver's fault

Well, in the end it was the truck driver's fault. He could quite easily spend a few years in jail for this.

This was the angle the press were pushing 24 months ago

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/time-to-get-it-right-on-our-roads/story-e6frfhqo-1226047586119

Touran 103TSI 7DSG - gearbox failed. Engine shut off and stalled on highway
Jetta 103TSI 7DSG - engine stalled while cruising downhill.

Were these models ever sold in Australia?

[team_v]

Wanna take a bet on that?

You're doing the speed limit in the fast lane and the vehicle ahead drastically and suddenly slows with no brake lights to warn you.

It wouldn't have been a drastic and sudden slow-down in a manual car unless the brakes were engaged and they didn't have an e-brake in the Mk5.

The truck driver was at fault for dangerous driving and not paying due car and attention.








DoggieHowser is based in Singapore i believe which is why he has different models to the AU market.

[cmrtig]

VW's ignorance/denial of the following main issues:

you mean ignorance/denial for a recall re. these issues. i think most would agree they have been trying to fix them for better or worse.

this is the problem with this debate; statements have been made by the media and posters here and elsewhere which generalise from specific cases to all VWs ever sold without any shred of evidence. everyone has sympathy for those with issues, especially if they have been stuffed around by dealers and VWA. but i would say the vast majority have no issues, unlikely to have any issues and are happy with their VWs.

a bit more sense, objectivity, logic and hard facts would be helpful to all in my opinion. otherwise you will eventually have all VW owners wondering which issue can kill them and when and as such the supply of second hand VWs goes through the roof and we all suffer. again just keep it objective! how hard is that no matter how angry you are? posting absurd generalisations here will not solve your problems and i doubt VWA will react to anything written by fairfax journos. if you have issues some previous posts have made it clear what your options are. use them!

at the end of the day does anyone here believe fairfax has our (VGA car owners) interests as a first priority. i doubt that very much. if they did the first article should have been an apology to all of us for giving VWs numerous awards on a consistent basis over many years and recommending them as best in class. now that would have been something!

[Umai Naa!!]

Hell - apparently the 97 Golf also has DSG and caused the engine to stop when entering traffic according to one idiot.

I wonder if that was my sister, remarking of the time her coil died?

[muli]

you mean ignorance/denial for a recall re. these issues. i think most would agree they have been trying to fix them for better or worse.

this is the problem with this debate; statements have been made by the media and posters here and elsewhere which generalise from specific cases to all VWs ever sold without any shred of evidence. everyone has sympathy for those with issues, especially if they have been stuffed around by dealers and VWA. but i would say the vast majority have no issues, unlikely to have any issues and are happy with their VWs.

a bit more sense, objectivity, logic and hard facts would be helpful to all in my opinion. otherwise you will eventually have all VW owners wondering which issue can kill them and when and as such the supply of second hand VWs goes through the roof and we all suffer. again just keep it objective! how hard is that no matter how angry you are? posting absurd generalisations here will not solve your problems and i doubt VWA will react to anything written by fairfax journos. if you have issues some previous posts have made it clear what your options are. use them!

at the end of the day does anyone here believe fairfax has our (VGA car owners) interests as a first priority. i doubt that very much. if they did the first article should have been an apology to all of us for giving VWs numerous awards on a consistent basis over many years and recommending them as best in class. now that would have been something!

Havent they already reacted and pulled all their advertising of Fairfax content?
any publicity is good publicity I reckon and reading even some comments on these forums on several threads abouts reoccurring problems I don't think VGA exactly has our interests as first priority?

I don't see whats wrong with secondhand supply going thru the roof? are you worried about resale value, surely not...