[NSW] Thoughts on Regular ULP ban?

[kaanage]

Ethanol has a higher octane rating. This simply means it has a greater resistance to detonation. Of itself a higher octane rating will not increase power. It will allow an engine designer to use a higher compression ratio to realise a higher BMEP and therefore power. This does nothing for existing engines.

An engine with knock sensors and suitable ECU can run higher boost (if supercharged/turbocharged) and/or more ignition advance which produces more power when higher octane fuel is used. Or an engine can be retuned if it is not self adapting.

Fully agree on the rest, though. E10 is a political, not environmental issue.

[wai]

The NSW state Government has backed down on the ban.
Premier bows to motorists on unleaded fuel

So, the NSW government says that it has listened to the people and backed down on banning Standard ULP. Well, this is not quite what it seems.

The report says that it will not ban the sale of Standard ULP, but it will also NOT remove the mandate that 6% of all petrol sales across NSW must come from bio-fuels (in this case, ethanol). So in reality there is no real change in the situation. As BP has said, this still means that petrol companies will still have to withdraw Standard ULP and replace itwith E10, as they (the petrol companies) will still have to meet the 6% mandated limit.

So in the true spirit of Yes Minister, we have a nonsense press release by the government that from the headlines appears to accept the voter's will, yet when you look into the detail has changed nothing. The only difference is that motorists will lay the blame at the feet of the petrol companies. After all, the NSW government did not ban the sale of Standard ULP, it was those "dirty, greedy petrol companies that withdrew Standard ULP thereby "forcing" motorists to by the more expensive fuel or go with a fuel that while cheaper will end up costing them more in consumption and repairs.

Brilliant...

[elephino]

So, the NSW government says that it has listened to the people and backed down on banning Standard ULP. Well, this is not quite what it seems.

The report says that it will not ban the sale of Standard ULP, but it will also NOT remove the mandate that 6% of all petrol sales across NSW must come from bio-fuels (in this case, ethanol). So in reality there is no real change in the situation. As BP has said, this still means that petrol companies will still have to withdraw Standard ULP and replace itwith E10, as they (the petrol companies) will still have to meet the 6% mandated limit.

So in the true spirit of Yes Minister, we have a nonsense press release by the government that from the headlines appears to accept the voter's will, yet when you look into the detail has changed nothing. The only difference is that motorists will lay the blame at the feet of the petrol companies. After all, the NSW government did not ban the sale of Standard ULP, it was those "dirty, greedy petrol companies that withdrew Standard ULP thereby "forcing" motorists to by the more expensive fuel or go with a fuel that while cheaper will end up costing them more in consumption and repairs.

Brilliant...

That's called 'governing'. Nothing to do with actually running anything, obviously

[Hail22]

Governments are nothing but failed lawyers, union members, failed business owners who go out to the world for their "own" political interest not for the national interest.

Dogs is the only word that can summarise them.

[Diesel_vert]

Money talks... (especially if it's been laced with ethanol )

That is all.

[gldgti]

Fixed thread title.

From reading that article, its pretty clear the author has no real knowledge about fuels...

The consequences of using EPULP in an unsuitable car are the same as using E10: it will ruin the fuel delivery system.

that and the fuel burn quote that was mentioned above.

Yet another case of bad journalism.

For anyones information - using premuim fuel for 2 stroke engines is highly recommended. Everything special that the engine needs is in the 2 stroke oil, and the better the fuel you put in, the better the engine will run.