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  • #16
    Kia are hardly nailing any designs. They have just copied a mix of European cars, to satisfy those people who are tight but don't want anyone to know it. The new Kia Rio is so obviously a clone of an Mk6 GTI and dont get me started on the Kia Sportage complete copy of an Audi Q5.

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    The Audi designer working over at Kia has hardly done anything innovative there, just basically stenciled out the design.

    With the exception of the i45 at least Hyundai are picking up sales on their own merit, i have a lot more respect for Hyundai then i do of Kia.
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    • #17
      I hate to say it but...

      i purchased a Kia Koup. Its fantastic, it ticked all the boxes for me and my wife and i've not looked back 5 year unlimited KM warranty.

      Servicing is cheap, replacement parts (bumpers guards etc..) are cheap, 6 airbags, leather, blue tooth, IPod connection, paddle shift, 6 speed auto, cruise control, fog lamps, Rear Parking Sensors and Sunroof. Also 4/5 Star ANNCAP saftey rating.

      My only complaint with this car having now done just on 2500kms. The rear suspension, it needs to be about 30mm lower and stiffer and it would be perfect. The only mods i'm considering for this car is just lowering it and a cat back exhaust system.

      For what you pay you wont get half of this in a Japanese or Euro coupe. Most of the standard items here are "optional extras" or Accessory items on the Jap and Euro models.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by hitoriko View Post
        I hate to say it but... i purchased a Kia Koup.
        I'd probably hate to say it out loud too

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        • #19
          Originally posted by hitoriko View Post
          I hate to say it but...

          i purchased a Kia Koup.
          The koup is probably the only Kia of the new range which i think is the most original it doesn't look like a fake/ clone, and it actually looks pretty decent shame ive read it doesnt handle too good.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by jessv3 View Post
            The koup is probably the only Kia of the new range which i think is the most original it doesn't look like a fake/ clone, and it actually looks pretty decent shame ive read it doesnt handle too good.
            So, it is still a fake. A poor attempt for a car.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by kleung View Post
              Strictly speaking though, the Koreans have 'cheated' to a certain extent by hiring European designers. So in part, their success is due to their leveraging of European knowhow. Nothing wrong with learning from the best though.
              Interesting comment and I don't disagree but I wouldn't exactly tag it as cheating.

              This is merely Korea as a nation attempting to break out of their patriotic bubble so to speak and venture into the world of globalisation, something which I feel they have historically struggled to grasp.
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              • #22
                Drivers who are passionate about their choice to drive (and pay for choice) European cars are unlikely to be found in a Kia / Hyundai showrooms, but the Korean car manufacturers have certainly found their niche in the market and they don't seem to be wanting for customers
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                • #23
                  Gotta love the staunch euro snobs.

                  Korean cars are in the same position as japan was in the early 70s. A few hero cars like the Datsun 240Z and the Toyota 2000GT and it will be a different story.
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                  • #24
                    As much as I dont particuarly won't to own a Korean car, I reckon its great for a nation like Korea.

                    They've been through political, civil and environmental turmoil, but have pulled through and like ATYPIC said, are venturing into "the world of globalisation"

                    We've all got to start from somwhere
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                    • #25
                      legalese aside, it'd be interesting to see some of these cars put out as concepts, but with euro badges on them, e.g. the new kia rio "concept" being depicted (before anyone knows what it is) with a Seat badge, or the Kia Sportage with a Lexus badge...

                      i reckon opinions would differ.

                      i personally am more interested in euro cars, but one cant deny that the koreans are coming up DAMN fast.

                      that being said, i do prefer kia's designs much more than the hyundai designs (apart from the i20 - i'd rock that as a daily. you could probably drive it without servicing it for 100,000km's and still not have any issues, if the getz is anything to go by).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jessv3 View Post
                        Kia are hardly nailing any designs. They have just copied a mix of European cars, to satisfy those people who are tight but don't want anyone to know it. The new Kia Rio is so obviously a clone of an Mk6 GTI and dont get me started on the Kia Sportage complete copy of an Audi Q5.

                        Lets play spot the difference:





                        The Audi designer working over at Kia has hardly done anything innovative there, just basically stenciled out the design.

                        With the exception of the i45 at least Hyundai are picking up sales on their own merit, i have a lot more respect for Hyundai then i do of Kia.
                        Apart from the outline of the car, they're quite different. The rear has many differences (boot opening is the most obvious). The side windows are quite different at the back, the bottom of the doors are different and there is more. They're the same in the same way as any two softroaders of that size are the same. The only other 'copy' is the lights in the rear bumper are very similar.

                        If you want to see what a copy looks like, check out the Great Wall X240 with its Golf Mk5 nose.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by clip View Post
                          I'd probably hate to say it out loud too
                          Be nice - i got it for my wife, going to be a city car so small, easy to park and if it was on 15" BBS with stance i would be very happy

                          Originally posted by jessv3 View Post
                          The koup is probably the only Kia of the new range which i think is the most original it doesn't look like a fake/ clone, and it actually looks pretty decent shame ive read it doesnt handle too good.
                          Actually it looks like a smaller version of the Audi A5 coupe

                          Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                          So, it is still a fake. A poor attempt for a car.
                          I'd hardly call it a poor attempt at a car just because of the handling... Caddy TDI isn't the best and i drive one everyday[COLOR="Silver"]


                          Originally posted by elephino View Post
                          Apart from the outline of the car, they're quite different. The rear has many differences (boot opening is the most obvious). The side windows are quite different at the back, the bottom of the doors are different and there is more. They're the same in the same way as any two softroaders of that size are the same. The only other 'copy' is the lights in the rear bumper are very similar.

                          If you want to see what a copy looks like, check out the Great Wall X240 with its Golf Mk5 nose.
                          imo the kia has better lines
                          Last edited by hitoriko; 10-11-2011, 04:20 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by hitoriko View Post
                            i purchased a Kia Koup. Its fantastic, it ticked all the boxes for me and my wife and i've not looked back 5 year unlimited KM warranty.
                            I think it's a great looking car - nicely edgy, great proportions, and whilst it's not a classic design or anything ground-breaking, it really holds its own amongst a sea of vanilla-styled cars we see these days.

                            Sure, it's not a drivers' car (from what I've read the drivetrain is average to below-average for power, economy and NVH, and the handling is pure 3-box), and the interior styling isn't as well received as the exterior, but I'd reckon it'd suit plenty of people I know very well.

                            Maybe in a couple of generations Kia will be knocking out great looking cars that drive as well as the Euros too. At that point I'll definitely take some interest.
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                            • #29
                              Call me a euro snob, but along with performance,reliability etc., car park cred plays a certain part in a car buyer's decision

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by hitoriko View Post
                                imo the kia has better lines
                                +1.

                                the audi Q5 looks like sheight. put a geely badge on it and everyone would be agreeing with me.

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