Switch off your lights !

[Rosie]

There is a very good reason for the authorities banning fog lights ............ it is the nanny state mentality. Who knows what's next.

No one has banned fog lights. They were designed for a purpose, which is not to make wankers, who care not a jot about anyone else, think their car looks cool with them on when not needed for their designed purpose.

[Blitzen]

The main reason I drive with fog lights on is my failing eyesight due to wanking... This isn't too bad though, as I don't worry about those with photosensitive eyes flashing their headlights at me to turn my fog lights off... I care not a jot...

[brimway]

The purpose of fog lights is to provide illumination in foggy conditions, nothing ground breaking so far.

If they are “blinding” oncoming drivers, clearly they would be aimed as high as, or higher than the low beam headlights, thus would be completely ineffective in foggy conditions. This is why they are mounted as low as possible and are able to be turned on independently to the main beams.



My uncle is a transport inspector and tells me that the main reason for banning fog lights is due to the after market fitment of auxiliary lights that are mounted low but not aimed as a fog light would be. Also in the thinking was to eliminate the cases where some drivers replaced their factory 55w globes with higher wattage units.



Option 1 Ban after market auxiliary lights, not practicable. Interestingly the use of such lights, so long as they are fitted within the regulations and not branded as “fog lights” is not illegal


Option 2 Ban the use of fog lights.

As I said, we live in a nanny state / country . AFAIK these regs apply Australia wide.

[Transporter]

Option 3; defect every car which hasn't got the lights aligned. Make people responsible for their actions, including police.

[wai]

Fog lights are designed to have a wide flat beam. They are mounted low because fog is much less dense close to the ground and so you get less back glare. They are designed to illuminate under the fog with little if any back glare.

Unfortunately fog lights are not adjusted correctly and used when they should not. In the main, they are aimed to point upwards and because of this they can blind oncoming drivers.

People can be light sensitive because they have little or no pigment in the retina, but the point that seems to get forgotten is that they are FOG lights. You use them when there is fog. If car owners want additional lights, there is nothing stopping them from installing additional lights and meet the same requirements as normal lights.

[brimway]

Fog lights are designed to have a wide flat beam. They are mounted low because fog is much less dense close to the ground and so you get less back glare. They are designed to illuminate under the fog with little if any back glare.

Unfortunately fog lights are not adjusted correctly and used when they should not. In the main, they are aimed to point upwards and because of this they can blind oncoming drivers.

People can be light sensitive because they have little or no pigment in the retina, but the point that seems to get forgotten is that they are FOG lights. You use them when there is fog. If car owners want additional lights, there is nothing stopping them from installing additional lights and meet the same requirements as normal lights.

I don't know of any manufacturer that enable the aim of fog lights to be adjustable. Where do you get "in the main they are pointed upwards"?

I hope you don't hold a position where you write traffic regulations

[Transporter]

I don't know of any manufacturer that enable the aim of fog lights to be adjustable. Where do you get "in the main they are pointed upwards"?

I hope you don't hold a position where you write traffic regulations

I think that he meant the foglights on the older cars.

[ffoff]

The only time I used my rear fog
on the mk3 is when my taillight was out and I didn't want the cops to have an excuse to pull me over in my already illegal car. No one flashed me that one time so meh

[Transporter]

The only time I used my rear fog
on the mk3 is when my taillight was out and I didn't want the cops to have an excuse to pull me over in my already illegal car. No one flashed me that one time so meh

I didn't mean you.

[Rosie]

If they are “blinding” oncoming drivers, clearly they would be aimed as high as, or higher than the low beam headlights, thus would be completely ineffective in foggy conditions. This is why they are mounted as low as possible and are able to be turned on independently to the main beams.

It must be flat as a pancake where you live. Where I live, when I approach the crest of a hill and some tosser is coming over that hill from the opposite direction I can

[Rosie]

....see by the light pattern that the fogs are on. As the oncoming car goes over the crest of the hill the light smack me in the eyes before the car is parallel to the road surface again. The low beams are not a problem. The fogs are.

[brimway]

It must be flat as a pancake where you live. Where I live, when I approach the crest of a hill and some tosser is coming over that hill from the opposite direction I can

Brisbane ain't flat

[Blitzen]

....see by the light pattern that the fogs are on. As the oncoming car goes over the crest of the hill the light smack me in the eyes before the car is parallel to the road surface again. The low beams are not a problem. The fogs are.

You might need better sunglasses...

[VR28LT]

Foggies angled in the right direction don't bother me too much...... what really bothers me is these wankers with their backyard installed HID kits that just absolutely blind you when oncoming and when on a motorway at night it feels as though a ****en UFO is overtaking you ! ****en retards .

[Dyldo]

What I really really hate is the muppets in Hyundai Excels who don't realise that they have a rear fog light that absolutely blinds anyone behind them. If you are doing it to p!ss me off then fair play to you, but I know you just have them on because you have no idea.

I can live with front fogs, they are always pointed down and out anyway and they serve other purposes besides helping in fog, as said by the previous poster. I live in a rural area and there are a few neanderthals who think the correct moment to dip their high beam is when the oncoming driver is so blinded he starts to black out and swerve.

Dude, you have a 4Mo VR6!!! Just blast the muppet excel pilot with your VR goodness and send him on his lowly 4-pot way