Zero tolrance speeding

[rageR]

Something I came across online.

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/margin-for-error-on-speeding-reduced-to-zero-20110324-1c8kp.html

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[rageR]

Tolerance.
Stupid iPhone spell check.


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[blutopless2]

yep... there was a bit of it on today tonight or current affair show... caught a bit then switched off..
lets face it... it was bound to happen.

[Blitzen]

Has anyone here taken a >5km/h over speeding fine to court, and used the ADR's as a Defence against these stupid tolerances?? I don't see how a state government rule can override a Federal government design mandate...

[Transporter]

yep... there was a bit of it on today tonight or current affair show... caught a bit then switched off..
lets face it... it was bound to happen.

Yes, I saw one of these affair show. They used wrong drivers as an example. The drivers who lost the last demerit point and lost the license when they were driving way too much over the speed limit. They were arguing, if the greater tolerance was used they wouldn't lost their license.

Anyone with the 1/2 brain would have to ask them; what did you do that you lost so many demerit points and why did you speed almost 20km over the speed limit?

[monkeyalan]

right , i don't want to be a "whinging pom" but this makes my blood boil.

"Australian design rules used to allow for a 10 per cent tolerance either way on car speedometers, but now the rules only allow for the tolerance above the actual travel speed."

so let me get this right. I can now no longer use the speedometer in my car as a tool to indicate the speed i'm traveling at as it will be inaccurate due to all sorts of reasons outside of my control ,eg : the rolling radius of the tyre changing due to the heat difference from cold to hot when in use and the ambient temperature?

The lawmakers need to sort out the tw4ts who won't let each other merge/exit safely on freeways , tailgate and drive around in 20 year old 5h1tboxes that have never seen a spanner rather than concentrating on ridiculously minor speed infractions.

[hooba]

Media beat up.

The new government that will be elected today has already made a statement that they won't allow this to happen.

[Corey_R]

"Australian design rules used to allow for a 10 per cent tolerance either way on car speedometers, but now the rules only allow for the tolerance above the actual travel speed."

so let me get this right. I can now no longer use the speedometer in my car as a tool to indicate the speed i'm traveling at as it will be inaccurate due to all sorts of reasons outside of my control ,eg : the rolling radius of the tyre changing due to the heat difference from cold to hot when in use and the ambient temperature?

I think that the quote in the article was badly worded.
Previously the ADR allowed for + / - 10 per cent tolerance. Now it allows for +10 per cent only.
What this means is that, as is the case with all current VW's, the speedo tells you that you're doing 100km/h, but you're really only doing 93km/h (since they're about +7% out). Therefore, whether you've inflated your tyres too much, or just got brand new tyres, or even to account for the width of the needle, you're ok.

Drivers of older cars though - they're potentially stuffed

[monkeyalan]

I think that the quote in the article was badly worded.
Previously the ADR allowed for + / - 10 per cent tolerance. Now it allows for +10 per cent only.
What this means is that, as is the case with all current VW's, the speedo tells you that you're doing 100km/h, but you're really only doing 93km/h (since they're about +7% out). Therefore, whether you've inflated your tyres too much, or just got brand new tyres, or even to account for the width of the needle, you're ok.

Drivers of older cars though - they're potentially stuffed

yeah , 107 on the speedo is bang on 100 using the sat nav and those freeway speedcheck things.

So whereas before you'd have gotten away with an actual 102 / 3 kph (speedo reading or 109 / 110 ) , now it's 100 (actual speed) exactly or you're booked?

I'm sure 1000's of life will be saved with this nonsense and it has nothing to do with revenue raising.

[markwid]

The new government that will be elected today has already made a statement that they won't allow this to happen.

Let's hope so because otherwise this is just too much.
Folks that do -5 will now have another excuse to go -10 on the roads.

[Greg Roles]

Whats really interesting is I'm right now on my way back from a week in Italy, and to cut a long story short, they generally drive faster than all the set speeds, and 160 in a 130 highway zone is the norm. They overtake into oncoming traffic, and that oncoming traffic actually pulls to the side to make room. It's organised chaos, and scary as hell at first, but it just seems to work so very well, and even the coppers just drive around taking a vague interest in the goings on. White lines are definately just a rough guide over there!!

It sure opened my eyes to just how over governed we are, they wouldn't stand for it in Italy, and more power to them for that.

[Klink1313]

I'm sure 1000's of life will be saved with this nonsense and it has nothing to do with revenue raising.

Agree 100%. More accidents will happen as people will spend time looking at the speedo and not what is going on outside the car.

Stupid nameless cubicle dwelling do gooders. Don't they realise that speed is a factor in every motor vehicle accident. After all if we didn't move there wouldn't be any accidents. Let people take responsibility for their actions and stop trying to wrap every one up in cotton wool....end of rant

[monkeyalan]

Whats really interesting is I'm right now on my way back from a week in Italy, and to cut a long story short, they generally drive faster than all the set speeds, and 160 in a 130 highway zone is the norm. They overtake into oncoming traffic, and that oncoming traffic actually pulls to the side to make room. It's organised chaos, and scary as hell at first, but it just seems to work so very well, and even the coppers just drive around taking a vague interest in the goings on. White lines are definately just a rough guide over there!!

It sure opened my eyes to just how over governed we are, they wouldn't stand for it in Italy, and more power to them for that.

i've had some 'interesting' driving experiences in mainland europe myself!

generally in the UK on motorways where the limit is 70mph most people will do a steady 75 - 80 but stay in the two left hand lanes unless they need to overtake.
the police don't really seem to interested in anyone doing under 85 unless they are driving like utter c0x.

[REXman]

Id give my left nut If drivers in Sydney that want to go below the speed limit, stayed out of the fast lane (right lane).

They are so friggin retarded its not funny. Very rarely do you get someone with common sense, that actually moves over when you give a quick polite high beam indicating you are keen to get on with it.

These imbeciles instead give the middle finger or better yet, preach ingorance and act like they didnt see anything.. whilst they do 70 in an 80 zone, in the right hand lane!! Arrrgh!!

[Corey_R]

Yep, I 100% agree with you there REXman. There are valid reasons for going significantly under the speed limit. Transporting something fragile, car is fragile, whatever. But stay to the left!

When the Mercedes Benz head of safety came out, one of the things he said is that our speed limits are all wrong. We've got 80km/h zones in suburbia, and then we've got 90 and 100km/h zones on interstate roads. He said that they should be 140km/h etc. BUT he also noted that we're terrible at staying left, and that this would have to be heavily re-educated and enforced before you could implement higher speeds on interstate roads capable of supporting it.