Old Euro toy car - unbias opinion

[RedMk2Gti]

After all my VW has gone, I've been keep looking for my next toy car, it has to be Euro.
I'm down to the following list :-

Mk2 GTI (2 door, 4 door doesn't matter, as long as it is good condition) - none in the market now
pos - classic look, con - slow

MK3 VR6 - 2 good one in carsales
pos - fast, con - expensive to maintain, drink too much fuel.

E30 318IS (2 door)
pos - combination of Mk2/VR6, con - nothing that I can think of

Since this is a VW forum I know a lot of you guys will knock down BMW but 2 doors E30 is my all time favourite. For those who have driven both old VW and BMW please give 'unbias' opinion.

[Tim]

E30s are cool and with a few mods they are quite a rewarding car to drive. You really need to wring the neck off the 318is to get any performance out of it. Id spring for a 323i or a 325i.. Just more grunt.

[velly_16v_cab]

i agree with tim, 325 is the way forward for a BMW....but that will make it drink the same as a VR and a 318 will be sluggish like a mk2 (well, not that slow lol)

personally its mk2 GTI FTW, timeless car..IMO

[RedMk2Gti]

and a 318 will be sluggish like a mk2 (well, not that slow lol)

personally its mk2 GTI FTW, timeless car..IMO

318i is sluggish, 318is is not AFAIK

[GTREA]

I have a 318is I bought as a '****ter' daily runaround, it cost $5900 and was suppossed to be just an interim measure until I ordered a MKVI GTi.....but I really quite like it...and hence have'nt bothered signing up for the VDub yet!



I have only travelled 1800kms in 3 months with it...as I would in the GTi if I bought it...so hard to justify the added $35000 or so dollars!

As a performance reference...it is noticeable less puncy in day to day driving than my TDi Caddy...and I would say slower outright also

[RedMk2Gti]

I have a 318is I bought as a '****ter' daily runaround, it cost $5900 and was suppossed to be just an interim measure until I ordered a MKVI GTi.....but I really quite like it...and hence have'nt bothered signing up for the VDub yet!



I have only travelled 1800kms in 3 months with it...as I would in the GTi if I bought it...so hard to justify the added $35000 or so dollars!

As a performance reference...it is noticeable less puncy in day to day driving than my TDi Caddy...and I would say slower outright also

Not that I don't like E36, but E30 looks a lot cooler IMO

[velly_16v_cab]

318i is sluggish, 318is is not AFAIK

true...my bad

[Jarred]

e30 love! I hope to have a 323 or 325 one day!

this thing looks alright!

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8486960&YearFromShort=1633&__Qpb=true&Cr=3&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal%7c0%7c%7cpCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_String%7c0&keywords=&YearToShort=1670&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294967079%204294967061%201633%201670&silo=1011&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=34&__sid=12367365155A

[Tim]

318i is sluggish, 318is is not AFAIK

Have you driven one yet? They arent rocket ships.
I think the main difference over the standard 318i engine is the higher compression? They go ok but you do need to keep them on the boil.

[GTREA]

Have you driven one yet? They arent rocket ships.
I think the main difference over the standard 318i engine is the higher compression? They go ok but you do need to keep them on the boil.

There twin cam, not single ala 318i.

Claim is 104kw or some such....but must be shetland ponies...because they are SLOW.

God fuel economy however, mines returning 7.6l/100kms...700kms per tank

[velly_16v_cab]

Have you driven one yet? They arent rocket ships.
I think the main difference over the standard 318i engine is the higher compression? They go ok but you do need to keep them on the boil.

arent the iS twin cam? 318i is single?

[Tim]

aahh twin cam. That rings some bells.
I think pete jones used to have one. He might be able to comment!

[Jarred]

he did, and I'm sure he could. I remeber him saying it's a got a different head or something, he had to get his rebuilt at some stage

[Rybky]

Don't know anything about beemers but I know how to find stuff on the web!! ...

BMW E30 3 Series Specifications

Might help. That was linked from the E30 site here: WELCOME TO M42CLUB.COM - BMW E30 318is

Adam

[velly_16v_cab]

yes, so the 318is IS a valver