F1: Controversial! Renault effectively admits guilt!

[Arctra]

All done and dusted!! Nice and quick and Renault come out looking pretty sweet.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/9/9953.html

Pretty sweet? They dodged a bullet big-time!

Renault received a permanent disqualification from the sport, but this is suspended until the end of 2011.

I can only assume this means that they wrap the team up over the next 2 years.... which there was rumour it was probably what they were considering doing anyway.

Will be interesting to see the washup on this. I'm predicting Nissan all of a sudden become an engine supplier in 2011, thanks to the Renault-Nissan marriage and background transfers of intellectual property.

[team_v]

With BMW pulling out and Now this, i think we will see the F1 die off and a new form of less restricted motorsport come out.

The same thing is happening in the rally circles.
Everyone is pulling out and i think we will see a new breed of rally pop up.

[gtimk5]

Clearing this mess up of Flavios just leaves the door open for the next ridiculous controversy.
You couldnt think up and write a book on whats happened in F1 over the last 2 years, starting with Mosleys after hours antics. A new underdog team leading the championship, the reigning champion languishing near the bottom of the points ladder, Prodrive being told that they cant enter the championship (dont know if this has been turned around) and Maclaren getting done for spying ect. ect.
At least it livens up what was a very boring class of racing for me, I actually watch the races a bit these days....

[gareth_oau]

With BMW pulling out and Now this, i think we will see the F1 die off and a new form of less restricted motorsport come out.

The same thing is happening in the rally circles.
Everyone is pulling out and i think we will see a new breed of rally pop up.

not necessarily, last week Lotus announced the will be competing in F1 next year, with engines by Cosworth.

I dont think its the restrictions that causing problems its the blatant cheating.

Of course I'm still waiting for Audi/Porsche/VW to announce their F1 arrival!!!

[static1800]

So basically they are banned for two years? deserves them right. It's not the first time Flavio has done something like this to win a race or championship.

Plenty of new teams wanting to come in to take their spot.

Piquet was a dud anyway, was in his contract to score half the points of Alonso. Zero points is not half of anything though, so he got the chop.

Alonso is going to Ferrari it seems so he is covered, they are a big team with lots of employee's though so that sucks.

[gtimk5]

Suspended 2 year ban Static, do no wrong and they stay on the grid.

[team_v]

not necessarily, last week Lotus announced the will be competing in F1 next year, with engines by Cosworth.

I dont think its the restrictions that causing problems its the blatant cheating.

Of course I'm still waiting for Audi/Porsche/VW to announce their F1 arrival!!!

I realise that lotus is competing in the F1 next year to fill the gap left by BMW.
However if there were less restrictions on the sport, it would mean there would be less cheating assumably as you would have more vaiation and wouldn't need to cheat to beet someone with the same specs as you.

Just my opinion though, it may hold out and continue but i just don't see it happening.

[Treza360]

Interesting to note that there might have been a much better chance of Massa taking the championship last year if Renault hadn't done what they did.
Cheers,
Trent

[Arctra]

Interesting to note that there might have been a much better chance of Massa taking the championship last year if Renault hadn't done what they did.
Cheers,
Trent

Yeah, given that Hamilton only got 1 point on him to get the championship. Lewis is defending his title saying he deserved it though. You can't say Massa would have won though... Butterfly Effect and all. Just a pity this happened.

Interestingly, Webber is managed by Flavio in some way I believe, so will have to get a new management group for next season if he wants to retain his drive.

[gareth_oau]

i think cheating will always exist, its just a function of how good your are at hiding it.

a few years ago, traction control was banned, but it was strongly rumoured that some teams were still using it.

fingers crossed it will just be another (big) storm in a teacup and F1 will live on