Thank You Massa!!!!!

[gerhard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeAuQ2Xem4Q

Coulthard taking Shumacher out 98, after being told by his pits to let Shumi past and lap him. One of the dirtiest pieces of driving I ever saw. Anyone who has ever raced Karts will know how effective a quick lift-off or brake check is at crashing out the driver behind you.

But Shumi must have been cheating, going so fast in the wet........

Listen also to the comments about Mansell grabbing Senna by the throat.

As I said before, the drivers weren't pussies back in those days, they would frequently take each other out and there would be frequent punch ups afterwards.

[static1800]

So Coulthard holding to one side of the track to let Michael pass is taking him out? Please he didnt see him and ran into him far and square, David held the line the entire time no malice what so ever.

[Mika]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeAuQ2Xem4Q

Coulthard taking Shumacher out 98, after being told by his pits to let Shumi past and lap him. One of the dirtiest pieces of driving I ever saw. Anyone who has ever raced Karts will know how effective a quick lift-off or brake check is at crashing out the driver behind you.

But Shumi must have been cheating, going so fast in the wet........

Listen also to the comments about Mansell grabbing Senna by the throat.

As I said before, the drivers weren't pussies back in those days, they would frequently take each other out and there would be frequent punch ups afterwards.

One of the dirtiest pieces of driving you ever saw...after a string of 90's Schumacher specials, a little Prost and Senna, I'm sure. If that is one of the dirtiest, Jerez 97 and Adelaide 94 must have come from the deepest depths of a sewer.

Sure DC should have moved off the racing line earlier, but in those conditions you've got no idea who is where behind you. If you get radio from the team to let schumacher past and you have no idea where he is on the track, what do you do? Keep going at the same speed and he'd more than likely get a stop-go penalty, move to the left and schumacher could very well be coming alongside him already.

Schumacher in both 94 and 97 knew exactly where Damon and Jacques were and did his absolute best to take them out. Everyone can see that without a shadow of doubt unless of course you're the ostrich wearing the red shirt and cap. In both cases, Schumacher had everything to gain from taking out his opposition too. It's an amazing coincidence that he crashed into drivers that were contesting the championship against him...twice...both in the title deciding race. Unlucky, racing incidents, hey?

[WABIT]

omg enough crap about dirty drivers, who cares!!!

get over it guys, everyone acts like they are 14 and talking about what power ranger has better powers

dom

[gerhard]

So Coulthard holding to one side of the track to let Michael pass is taking him out? Please he didnt see him and ran into him far and square, David held the line the entire time no malice what so ever.

Rubbish - he didn't see him? - he'd been following Coulthard for a whole lap trying to get past - Coulthard received instructions from his pits to let Michael past, so Coulthard stays on the racing line and practically stops.

No malice - yeah, right.

[DubSteve]

omg enough crap about dirty drivers, who cares!!!

get over it guys, everyone acts like they are 14 and talking about what power ranger has better powers

dom

It was definately the yellow power ranger

[danish]

The funniest part is the Schumacher haters talk about him as though Senna, Prost, Villeneuve Coulthard, Hamilton, Alonso and other champions never employed such tactics in order to win

Every race driver that has ever been any good has run someone off the track at some stage of their career in order to win. Thats what racing is.

Getting all uppity at Schuey over a handful of incidents over a 250 race career is just stupid and, frankly, only shows up people's bias against him.


I don't think the Ferrari is good enough for him to win a race in this come back, but given the constant improvement of the Ferrari car over the last few races I am willing to take a punt on it. He is paying $14 to take out the win after all

[Mr Messy]

I caught a bit of Watkins Glen NASCAR yesterday and couldn't believe how soft those guys are. Marcos Ambrose pulled out beside a guy, outbraked him, and left as much room as he could by cutting grass with his inside tyres (ie didn't miss the apex and shove him away from the corner).

It was a clean pass with no contact and the Americans went into a fit, bitching about how Marcos dive-bombed the guy with a sneaky (in a bad way) move. They even went as far as saying it was unsafe as he didn't telegraph the pass early enough and let his opponent's spotters say Ambrose was up beside him. Crap.

Motorsport should be aggressive and a bit dirty. Look up ``Jaime Melo Sebring'' on youtube to see what I think is one of the gutsiest, grittiest passes I can remember.

Schuey was a flawed legend but a legend nontheless. People still talk about him, but Hill and Villeneuve? very much forgotten.

[static1800]

Rubbish - he didn't see him? - he'd been following Coulthard for a whole lap trying to get past - Coulthard received instructions from his pits to let Michael past, so Coulthard stays on the racing line and practically stops.

No malice - yeah, right.

Show me a video where you can see Coulthard slowing

I have a lot of respect for Shumacher don't get me wrong, but he did some things that tarnished his reputation i.e 94 and 97 that can't be reverted.

He is/was an amazingly talented driver I personally rate him lower than several other because of these "incidents"

[danish]

Show me a video where you can see Coulthard slowing

I have a lot of respect for Shumacher don't get me wrong, but he did some things that tarnished his reputation i.e 94 and 97 that can't be reverted.

He is/was an amazingly talented driver I personally rate him lower than several other because of these "incidents"

And how much do you take off of, say, Prost and Senna for the multiple times they each punted each other and others off the track?


:EDIT: as to Coulthard.... what more evidence do you need that he slowed down besides the fact Schumacher came up on him so fast that he first of all could not stop, clearly pointing to Coulthard standing on the brakes unexpectedly, and the force at which he hit him?

He clearly stopped in front of him. Its not as though Schumachers car suddenly accelerated straight up the back of him.

[Blitzen]

And how much do you take off of, say, Prost and Senna for the multiple times they each punted each other and others off the track?


:EDIT: as to Coulthard.... what more evidence do you need that he slowed down besides the fact Schumacher came up on him so fast that he first of all could not stop, clearly pointing to Coulthard standing on the brakes unexpectedly, and the force at which he hit him?

He clearly stopped in front of him. Its not as though Schumachers car suddenly accelerated straight up the back of him.

Schuie invaded Couthards rear end like the Germans taking Poland!! He is a dirty cheating, mean man!! Nothing like that Gentleman Racer Mansell!!

[Manaz]

Nothing like that Gentleman Racer Mansell!!

Mansell was too boring to cheat.

[static1800]

Not sure if it is 100% confirmed yet....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8186319.stm

[Rocket36]

DOH! That sux! Was so looking forward to watching him race again...

[No457 Snowy]

At least he'll have his new 12,000 Euro helmet as a mantle piece keepsake!

Helmet manufacturer Schuberth has reacted to Felipe Massa’s Hungarian Grand Prix accident by developing an upgraded version of the design used by the Ferrari driver.

Seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher will launch the new model later this month at the European GP in Valencia, where he is set to return to Formula 1 as a high-profile stand-in for his former team-mate Massa.

The Brazilian suffered a fractured skull and brain concussion after being hit in the head by a spring weighing 800g that had detached itself from the rear suspension of Rubens Barrichello’s Brawn car.

Although Massa’s lightweight carbon fibre helmet stood up well to the impact – testifying to the efficacy of stringent safety standards introduced by the FIA in 2004 – the left visor mounting was knocked off.

Schuberth has therefore reinforced the mounting point between the helmet and visor with a titanium disc, a change it says will double the strength of the mounting.

“Felipe’s visor only came off when the doctors pulled on it,” Schuberth’s Oliver Schimpf told German newspaper Bild.

“But we have inserted a titanium disc at the transition from the visor to the helmet where before there was only plastic.

“It is a reaction to the accident.”

Schumacher’s new €12,000 Schuberth RF1 lid sports a revised livery designed by Jens Munser, with a barcode-style cluster of white stripes below the top white band and some Mandarin script on a black background behind the visor on either side.

On the right side of the helmet, the names of Schumacher and his son Mick are written in Chinese characters, while the names of his wife Corinna and daughter Gina Maria appear on the right side and a dragon adorns the rear.

The seven stars denoting his record number of F1 world titles remain on the top of the helmet.

Snowy