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  • #16
    See thats where i was confused - do you do coilovers or springs??

    Obviously there is a big difference in $$ - whats the usual price for a good set of springs or coilovers??

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MissVuks View Post
      See thats where i was confused - do you do coilovers or springs??

      Obviously there is a big difference in $$ - whats the usual price for a good set of springs or coilovers??
      You'd be crazy to get coilovers to be honest. A set of good springs would be fine.

      See, a height adjustable coilover set is a spring and damper set, with the function to set the spring to a height you want for the ride height you want. In this case, you replace the whole shock (damper) and spring setup.

      Whereas a set of springs is well, a set of springs. So you simply remove your standard springs and replace them with your new spring set.

      A set of springs will cost you usually less than 400 dollars, whereas a set of adjustable coilovers will cost you over 1000 dollars.

      More to come, just give me a sec..

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      • #18
        Champion.. keep it coming

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        • #19
          OK...

          Now, everything on a car is a compromise between numerous things. Suspension (which funnily enough fits in the "everything" category) is no different.

          Suspension engineers have to deal with a number of problems, but we'll keep it simple. Basically (and i'm keeping it REALLY simple here), the better you want something to handle the rougher it will ride. Adj. coilovers are usually designed with handling in mind more so than ride quality.

          So, unless you want your car to handle much better, you want to be able to go really low or you want the ability to adjust your ride height at will, coilovers are a waste of time and money, when there are perfectly good spring packages available. You would probably also find that your car would be rough to ride in and it just wouldn't be as nice to drive day to day if you purchased coilovers.

          If i was in your shoes, i'd go for a nice set of springs. You seem like you want something versatile and i'm assuming you use your car every day, so i think around a 25mm drop would be nice. All you want is to centre the wheel in the arch, which will make the lines of the car flow much better, if you get me.

          Does that make sense?

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          • #20
            Make sense - Yeah i want it maybe a tad lower (for aesthetics) - but comfort is important..

            I just get memories of my brothers old 626 when he lowered it.. His ride was so bumpy, it was actually irritating being a passenger in his car..

            Springs are the cheaper option, I'm not going to race my car so handling isn't high on the agenda.. Its fine for the way i drive LOL which isn't like a maniac..

            What about a RSB?? How much of an improvement to handling do they add??

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            • #21
              Lori

              I just had Eibach springs put on my car this week ... haven't noticed any change in ride comfort ... the car is just about 25ml lower.

              Dave

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              • #22
                Dave, how much did they set you back with install?? I wouldn't want to go any lower than 25mm..

                I see in your extensive list of mods u have a k & n filter... went to buy/enquire about one today but the salesperson at repco had no clue :/ you wouldn't happen to know the part number loll

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MissVuks View Post
                  Make sense - Yeah i want it maybe a tad lower (for aesthetics) - but comfort is important..

                  I just get memories of my brothers old 626 when he lowered it.. His ride was so bumpy, it was actually irritating being a passenger in his car..

                  Springs are the cheaper option, I'm not going to race my car so handling isn't high on the agenda.. Its fine for the way i drive LOL which isn't like a maniac..

                  What about a RSB?? How much of an improvement to handling do they add??
                  Like i said, Eibach is really good or KW or H&R. We generally use Eibach because we have access to them here, but there are other brands that are good. Pretty sure we used Eibach springs in my mum's Mk4 polo when she had it. Went about an inch lower. Slightly firmer ride, barely noticeable though. It handled better when we did it.

                  Ask around in the Polo section (i avoid it so i don't know what's in there.. ) and see if anyone has done the same. Ask their opinion and see if you can go for a spin in their car. Do your homework with springs, see what is available, what prices and who deals them.

                  You Polo people love your rear strut braces don't you? First thing you have to ask is "Does my car handle good enough for what i want to do?".

                  An RSB will change your handling balance and shift it more towards the front, generally. Given that most production cars are usually set up to have slight understeer from the factory (an slightly understeering car feels very dosile to drive and doesn't get out of shape in a hurry when pushed hard, whereas a car that is very neutral or has slight oversteer takes skill, feel and commitment to drive on the limit) it will probably make the car more neutral to drive. Although i think i remember reading about people complaining about lift-off entry oversteer in the polo's when they fitted the RSB. (Which would make sense if it was close to neutral to begin with.)

                  If you don't want to push your car to the limit and you're happy with the way it handles, i wouldn't bother unless you just want to show it off and say it has an RSB.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DaveMack View Post
                    Lori

                    I just had Eibach springs put on my car this week ... haven't noticed any change in ride comfort ... the car is just about 25ml lower.

                    Dave
                    Buy the Eibach ones then. Dave's old so he wouldn't lie...

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                    • #25
                      I do drive the car with some stick LOL but i do notice on take off if i push it quite hard it feels like the front end lifts, so a RSB would make that worse?

                      Im annoying aren't I?? hehehe

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MissVuks View Post
                        I do drive the car with some stick LOL but i do notice on take off if i push it quite hard it feels like the front end lifts, so a RSB would make that worse?

                        Im annoying aren't I?? hehehe
                        No it wouldn't make a difference. That's caused by weight transfer to the rear. Lowering the car would help with that. As would slightly stiffer rear springs.

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                        • #27
                          on acceleration, feels like the front end wants to go all over the place..

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Preen59 View Post
                            Buy the Eibach ones then. Dave's old so he wouldn't lie...
                            You're pushin' it, pup.

                            Dave

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DaveMack View Post
                              You're pushin' it, pup.

                              Dave
                              Ok i'll leave you alone.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MissVuks View Post
                                on acceleration, feels like the front end wants to go all over the place..
                                Sorry read my question again, i screwed up and had to re-write it.

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