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    Originally posted by Google Translation
    The California Beach - now with AufstelldachDer Beach is conceived as low-priced Allroundmobil and marks the entrance in rank of the leisure vehicles. It is purist in the best sense and is limited to the substantial. With few handles it transforms into travelmobilely for two persons. Again- He can be ordered with one manually to operating setting up roof.

    Basic element in the Beach is a rail system in the soil, which ensures a safe attachment of the purpose-oriented and dismantlable facility modules. Right in the rear stands the two-seat well-known from the California, which can be put with few handles easily to the couch surface flat. Left beside it a stowage box for the widening of the bed, which places plentifully area for the accessories of the travel mobilists in the everyday life, is. For the necessary length of the couch surface a padded luggage compartment cover provides. To the collusion curtains come to the employment, which are fastened by magnet. Plug-in frame employments prevent inadvertent views at the windshield and the front side windows.

    Classically the seat round: It results for maximally four persons from the turned front seats and the rear seat arbitrarily adjustable in the rear area. The table necessary for it is accommodated in the cowl of the sliding door and can with its four legs both inside and outside of the vehicle be set up. As additional outdoor furniture serve two standard Campingstühle, which are stowed away in the trunk under the bed extension.

    In the model version with normal roof a rail system at both inner walls provides for a cleared up interior. Ever a profiled rail above and underneath the rear side windows form the load-carrying basis for two material bags and further equipment. The bags can be used with stretcher belts comfortably as backpack and be fastened surely in the vehicle to the lateral profiled rails. The rails stretch also a roof net, which is suitable for example ideally for stowing daily and night implements away such as covers, sleeping bags and clothes.

    Again- Contrary to its brothers California Trendline and Comfortline, which are in series equipped with an electrohydraulical setting up roof, can be ordered for the Beach a setting up roof which can be operated manually. Thus the California Beach in „the first floor “two further sleep places and in the projectile offer under it during the day sufficiently to standing height. The additional couch surface with slat rust measures zirka 2.00 x 1.20 M. besides contains the model with setting up roof a Markisenaufnahmeschiene with water drain. The roof net specified before, the material bags and the profiled rails are concept conditionally not available in this variant. The maximally permissible roof load amounts to 50 kg.

    Four diesel engines are used in the California Beach. As basic motorizing a four-cylinder with 62 KW (84 HP) or 75 KW (102 HP) and a torque of 200 and/or 250 Nm serves. The five-cylinder promises more achievement. It mobilized depending upon performance level 96 KW (130 HP) or 128 KW (174 HP) and makes maximum torques available of 340 and/or 400 Nm. While the four-cylinder engine is coupled with a five-course transmission, optionally a six-course automatic transmission transfers engine performance to the wheels with the five-cylinder engine six-course switching or. The all-wheel drive 4MOTION is with the five-cylinder engines.

    The independent suspension of the chassis consists of McPherson shock struts in front and " - feathers/springs and separate shock absorbers to a diagonal steering wheel axle with „Miniblok in the back. Beyond that largely dimensioned stabilizers suppress the side inclination of the vehicle in curves, while load-sensitive absorbers increase the suspension comfort. For necessary negative acceleration four ventilated brake disks provide. Come in series 4-Kanal-ABS, ASR and ESP to the employment as well as during along-ordered trailer coupling a bottom plate stabilization.
    - Ben

    1961 Karmann Ghia Coupé - 1993 Golf Cabriolet - 2006 Golf Comfortline 1.9L TDI
    2008 Jetta 2.0L FSI

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    Pity the beach is not low priced in Aus!! It might be worth buying if it was $35000 instead of nearly $60000.
    Bob

    Ex 2004 Transporter TDI T4
    2007 Multivan Comfortline T5 128kw TDI Auto

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BobD View Post
      Pity the beach is not low priced in Aus!! It might be worth buying if it was $35000 instead of nearly $60000.

      This is not the Kombi (Multivan) Beach sold here

      The California Beach is just releasing overseas the difference is the pop up roof with a bed
      - Ben

      1961 Karmann Ghia Coupé - 1993 Golf Cabriolet - 2006 Golf Comfortline 1.9L TDI
      2008 Jetta 2.0L FSI

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      • #4
        Yes, I knew it wasn't the one sold here. I was just joking about the reference in the German write up to the low price.

        The Australian Kombi Beach is way too expensive for anyone other than old people to buy and they are not going to like it. I was looking for a 9 seat Kombi when I bought my Mutivan but after drivng the Beach and the Multivan there is no comparison in driving pleasure and I went for the Multivan, even with the 7 seats that won't seat my entire family of 8. If all the older kids want to go somewhere we just end up having to take two vehicles, but that is very rare and they all have their own cars anyway.

        I like the English translation from the German in your posts, Ben. Is it done by computer or something? It is worse than the Japanese English we used to get years ago!! Very interesting info on this camper and the Multivan Concert though.

        Bob
        Bob

        Ex 2004 Transporter TDI T4
        2007 Multivan Comfortline T5 128kw TDI Auto

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BobD View Post
          The Australian Kombi Beach is way too expensive for anyone other than old people to buy and they are not going to like it. I was looking for a 9 seat Kombi when I bought my Mutivan but after drivng the Beach and the Multivan there is no comparison in driving pleasure and I went for the Multivan, even with the 7 seats that won't seat my entire family of 8. If all the older kids want to go somewhere we just end up having to take two vehicles, but that is very rare and they all have their own cars anyway.
          Bob
          Hi BobD
          I am new here and am considering buying a Kombi Beach. As you say, they are way too expensive here, but if you could over come the price barrier, you then say that the owner will not be happy with it. Can you explain your reason for saying that, is it that it only has the 96kw engine, or some other reason?

          BrianJ

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          • #6
            Phaeton,
            I like the look of the Beach with pop up roof so can you tell me where you found these details please?
            We have a T4 with pop up roof at the moment.

            We are in the prosess of moving from UK to OZ and have been looking at bring VW with us or get one out there...

            I could order a van in UK with KPH clocks but what other thing would have to be inorder for it to pass customs etc?

            I heard that it has to be right hand drive does this apply to yhe sliding door?
            What about head lamps?
            Any info of anyone out there would be good!

            Thanks Rob

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            • #7
              Answers in Bold under questions

              Originally posted by rob64981 View Post
              Phaeton,
              I like the look of the Beach with pop up roof so can you tell me where you found these details please?

              VWCV Press Site and if you look on the VWCV Germany page you will find more info.

              We have a T4 with pop up roof at the moment.

              We are in the prosess of moving from UK to OZ and have been looking at bring VW with us or get one out there...

              Congrats, which state are you going to move to ?

              I could order a van in UK with KPH clocks but what other thing would have to be inorder for it to pass customs etc?

              Our importation customs are very strict try here Aussie Customs Site. for further details

              I heard that it has to be right hand drive does this apply to yhe sliding door?
              What about head lamps?

              Don't know.

              Any info of anyone out there would be good!

              Thanks Rob
              Last edited by phaeton; 03-11-2007, 06:50 PM.
              - Ben

              1961 Karmann Ghia Coupé - 1993 Golf Cabriolet - 2006 Golf Comfortline 1.9L TDI
              2008 Jetta 2.0L FSI

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              • #8
                Enough vans I want a bus

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BrianJ View Post
                  Hi BobD
                  I am new here and am considering buying a Kombi Beach. As you say, they are way too expensive here, but if you could over come the price barrier, you then say that the owner will not be happy with it. Can you explain your reason for saying that, is it that it only has the 96kw engine, or some other reason?

                  BrianJ

                  BrianJ,

                  All I can suggest is that you drive both of them. The Multivan Comfortline is hardly any more expensive than a Kombi (especially with the discount I got with mine from the dealer) but the difference is huge. The Kombi line is basically a tarted up commercial vehicle but the Multivan is properly modified for people use. It is quieter, both engine and road noise, better suspension, much better engine (128kw instead of 96), many luxury features thrown in etc. Have a look at the difference in real street prices and what you get for the extra money and then drive both to see if you would be happy with a Kombi nine seater or Beach.

                  I am very happy with my Multivan and I was never completely happy with my T4 Transporter converted to an 8 seater because of the things that I mentioned above.

                  Whatever you do, VW TDI is the way to go but check the Multivan as well as the Kombi.
                  Bob

                  Ex 2004 Transporter TDI T4
                  2007 Multivan Comfortline T5 128kw TDI Auto

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                  • #10
                    I think I understand that you are saying, that the multivan with 128kw is more powerful and quieter than the transporter. The kombi beach is actually misnamed because it is built out of the multivan not the transporter, although it has the lower powered motor. The kombi name was used only to make the popularity connection with aussie people.

                    My problem is that I need a travelling bed, not a people mover, and have investigated the 8 seat multivan, but it would end up costing more to convert it to the equivalent bedding arrangement that the beach has.

                    I am prepared to have the lower powered motor as it has very good fuel economy, and anyway the larger motor is not available as an option in the beach.

                    I will drive them both anyway before I do anything, and thanks for your feedback. I am trying to get a demo unit at a lower price.

                    Brianj

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                    • #11
                      BrianJ,

                      The main reason I said that old people (or should I say people that can afford a Beach) wouldn't like it is because it seems to be aimed at young people and should be a lot cheaper. However, having driven both my other comments about the Beach being a more commercial based vehicle still stand.

                      My understanding is that it is not derived from a Multivan but is a more commercially based vehicle (although I am no expert). It certainly doesn't seem to have the same attention to NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) as the Multivan. However, if you are after the bed and not the seats then it is probably exactly what you are looking for.

                      I was quite happy with the 75kw TDI in the T4 so 96kw seems huge. I also thought it would be plenty and it would be good to get lower fuel consumption. However, one drive of the 128kw TDI and I was hooked and the official fuel consumption is about the same. In practice, I am getting much worse fuel consumption than the official figure in the Multivan, so the 96kw may prove to be much better in this regard in real life.

                      Anyway, do your research and get what you need and I am sure you will be very happy with the T5, even if it is a bit pricey. Have a drive of the Beach and a 128kw Transporter and/or Multivan and let your brain do the talking, not your heart. Enjoy the new car when you decide.
                      Bob

                      Ex 2004 Transporter TDI T4
                      2007 Multivan Comfortline T5 128kw TDI Auto

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rob64981 View Post
                        Phaeton,
                        I like the look of the Beach with pop up roof so can you tell me where you found these details please?
                        We have a T4 with pop up roof at the moment.

                        We are in the prosess of moving from UK to OZ and have been looking at bring VW with us or get one out there...

                        I could order a van in UK with KPH clocks but what other thing would have to be inorder for it to pass customs etc?

                        I heard that it has to be right hand drive does this apply to yhe sliding door?
                        What about head lamps?
                        Any info of anyone out there would be good!

                        Thanks Rob
                        Headlights I think would be fine, don't know about RH sliding door.I have a twin slider, but don't know how they would view just 1 on RHS>
                        Don't forget to look into import duty.
                        Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
                        2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
                        Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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                        • #13
                          head lamps must comply to ADR regulations in Australia UK are not accepted.
                          Look at the arrow direction on local units UK are opposite these lights are not fog lamp units.
                          Sliding doors you can have both sides but with on e only door being on the right hand side may cause conflict with the Local DOT ans EPA regulations as this would be deemed the leading door. It would be easier to order a RHD export VW as this at least would compliant, Euro 4 emission standards must be included on the vehicle if it's a stand alone import. All paper work from original seller must be included for import taxation the bonus is you can apply for GST exemption in the UK as the unit is tax exempt for export you need an export broker to do the paper work local sales rep would not a the slightest clue
                          Warranty forget it unless your high up in the ranks as you would be bring in a model that is already sold in Australia irrespectively of it being fitted out as an RV The standard model is what the regulators will look at VW not happy little chappies on this one.
                          The RV has a lighter suspension for ride the lower KW engine is for this model as to fuel economy but in part based on weight configurations for the front axle loadings, for example your loading capacity on a transporter delivery van is rated for max GVM between 2.8 to 3.2 T but the van remains in the 2500 series as the options from 2.5 weight variants to 3.2 t are optional The above vehicle has a loading capacity of from the SWB unit 1,391Kg to the LWB unit 1311Kg they are registered as 2.5 or 2.8t GVM.

                          Kombi
                          GVW 2.6 to 3.2 the GVM ranges from 2.6 to 2.8 GVW based on its GVM Ranging from SWB units at 1326 Kg to 1236Kg

                          Shuttles are limited to two body variants in Australia unless the newest model has offered more
                          SWB unit has a higher GVM of 1326Kg the LWB unit or MWB unit in Australia has a lower GVW due to the longer wheel base it can be ordered to match the SWB unit by ordering a higher front and rear axle Kg rating special orders.

                          If you look at the UK options you will find differences in the mechanical make up you need to match one for AUS ratings or it may not be accepted by the DOT as that model has not been through the ADR regulators for compliance to EPA regulations etc. little things like crash testings etc.
                          One thing to consider both Kombi and shuttle are classed as passenger carrying vehicles there are now speed limiters on the VW in Australia under this class, of vehicle unless you exceed 3.251KG limiters may apply in different states but to the best of my knowledge with out checking up speed limiters are not required on the vans in your class .
                          still follow the above links for import and requirements I have not done this since 1998 except for 4.4 GVM and 5 Tonne special purpose vans.
                          Richard
                          Australian RHD lighting ambiance
                          RHD
                          R side <- <- _ -> L side ->->->
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