Crafter 2.5 Particulate filter

[Cousin]

Absolutely, good point Miro, I'd NEVER run standard diesel in my DPF equipped car. BP Ultimate or
Vortex ( when BP not available ) for me.

According to the Caltex website they have 65 outlets with Vortex diesel (as opposed to diesel or biodiesel) in Victoria

Sadly BP have this on their website,

" Release date: 18 May 2010
BP Ultimate Diesel was launched in Australia in 2007 and since then it has become a favourite with many motorists in Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia.

In late 2009 Ultimate Diesel was temporarily withdrawn from the market as BP developed changes to the manufacturing process.

These changes are now complete and a modified version of Ultimate Diesel is to be reintroduced to the market in Queensland and South Australia during May and Western Australia in June.

Results from BP’s in-house testing facility in Bochum, Germany, combined with local independent testing confirm that Ultimate Diesel still offers all the benefits you would expect from BP Ultimate advanced performance fuels. This includes improved fuel economy and reduced emissions compared to regular diesel.

Customers seeking more information should contact the BP customer service helpline 1300 1300 27.
More information from

Jamie Jardine,
Media Relations Manager: 03 9268 3534 or 0410 479 002 "


What seems to be the problem with NSW and VIC?

Might give her a call tommorrow.



M

[Cousin]

Txt Jamie asking when Vic will get Ultimate diesel, reply back "Next year, providing we can secure tank space".

Looks like Caltex is the only option for us Mexicans at the moment.


(and I think it's 'him' not her)



M

[Greg Roles]

I used Caltex Vortex the entire time BP Ultimate was out nationally, and didn't have an increase in my apparent lack of obvious DPF regens - so I'd rate it as good as BP soot wise, and didn't notice any performance difference swapping back to BP.

[Silver Caravelle]

I wonder if the ' bush mechanics' out there (including me) will eventually expand on the mentioned proposition of mechanically sucking or blowing out the contents when the DPF becomes blocked.

Makes me wonder whether the DPF could have an inspection plate cut in and added, so in the event of a blockage, the inspection plate could be undone and contents could be sucked out. Could this be possible? I hate this notion that something as solid as a DPF cannot be recondtioned and all those old bush mechanic and engineering skils are slowing disappearing!

Even if this had be done every 100 K or so, is better than forking thousands of dollars. Or as you all mention the DPF delete path.

Regards,

Scott

[goober]

I wonder if the ' bush mechanics' out there (including me) will eventually expand on the mentioned proposition of mechanically sucking or blowing out the contents when the DPF becomes blocked.

Makes me wonder whether the DPF could have an inspection plate cut in and added, so in the event of a blockage, the inspection plate could be undone and contents could be sucked out. Could this be possible? I hate this notion that something as solid as a DPF cannot be recondtioned and all those old bush mechanic and engineering skils are slowing disappearing!

Even if this had be done every 100 K or so, is better than forking thousands of dollars. Or as you all mention the DPF delete path.

Regards,

Scott

Scott, we tried that as well, we cut a piece the size of a packet of B&H extra mild 25's on the side of the filter then chisled out the contents.....ony problem once the hole was welded was the back pressure pipe could not register any backpressure and the ECU went back to limp mode, when we had the ECU recoded to accept the new parameter (told the dealer it was a sports exhaust without the DPF) the Crafter ran well except at idle it belched out blue smoke which generally means rings are buggered...........leak down test and compression test came up trumps, we put on a DPF that had been cleaned with wide flange oxy torch and compressed air..........no limp mode and no blue smoke.........thus after spending a week with my mechanics scratching our heads we reckon the simple solution is to burn the soot. Considering its a renter we cant expect every customer to abide by the instructions set out by VW.

All said and done, I still reckon it will be a problem down the track for anyone buying a used diesel with DPF or someone who doesnt always read the manual when taking delivery of a new one........and no the dealer/ salesperson doesnt go thru the finer points regarding this issue.

Isuzu is somewhat more insane in that the vehicle needs to be pulled to the side of the road and run for 20 minutes..........tell that to a renter!!!!....I had a 3 tonne tipper delivered and when told what needed to be done I told them to take it back as it defied logic and also breached section 74 of the trades practices act....not fit for its purpose. It now makes sense why Isuzu put all the bells and whistles on their trucks in comparison to Hino and Mitsubishi (who are yet to comply with DPF)...Isuzu needed to sell the DPF with toys.....wtf

[goober]

and yes running an oil with low "saps" is mandatory for anything with a DPF

[Seano]

Delete the DPF and replace the catalytic converter with one of these diesel particulate filters used in the under ground mining industry (where particulate build-up is a BIG BIG deal). They make one in the size required for the Crafter and Transporter.....cost is about $1,500 per unit. This way you'll stay legal for exhaust pipe emission which is what the DPF is all about.

Diesel Catalytic Converter Diesel Particulate Filter Catalyst

They are also fitted to some of the diesel LPG conversions to control the potentially excessive soot generation...

[sh|tbmxrider]

Isuzu is somewhat more insane in that the vehicle needs to be pulled to the side of the road and run for 20 minutes..........tell that to a renter!!!!....I had a 3 tonne tipper delivered and when told what needed to be done I told them to take it back as it defied logic and also breached section 74 of the trades practices act....not fit for its purpose. It now makes sense why Isuzu put all the bells and whistles on their trucks in comparison to Hino and Mitsubishi (who are yet to comply with DPF)...Isuzu needed to sell the DPF with toys.....wtf

Isuzu are insance with that, agreed... I know that Isuzu are going from the DPF for Euro4 to a OXY-Kat for Euro5... The particles will go thru a oxidation process, and makes them harmless, apparenly... and no need to 'trap' them, if you will.

MAN have been running PM-Kats on all there Euro4's, and we haven't had one block up in Aus.... Because instead of trapping the particles and burning them off, its constantly regenerating, and no chance of a blockage. Euro5 under 340hp we are going to OXY-Kats, 360hp-540hp were going to the dreaded AdBlue(SCR)

Given that MAN is owned by VW, you would think that they would be looking within for better solutions...

[Altered Sprinter]

VW Crafter DPF can be programed by your local dealer for a forced DPF regeneration As to carbon soot contamination this can be reduced to a low Nox at the tailpipe of <0.3 Providing you use a Ultra low Diesel 10/ppm with a 51 cetane rating of which is available in most Australian states.
be aware of Winter grade fuels refereed to as Mountain an Alpine ULSD this is not Ultra ULSD.
Additive as to an upper cylinder lubricants are still required to reduce carbon build up in the intake valve area and carbonizing of injector jet flows.
This fully covered under your existing warranty with VW providing you use flow guard Mercedes or VW renamed brand
OILS LOW SAPS MY YEAR JULY 2006 JUST MAKE SURE YOU USE THE CORRECT FULL SYNTHETIC OILS SUITABLE OR A DIESEL TURBO ENGINE WITH EGR AND DPF
5/40W 10/40 esp LOW SAPS LOOK FOR SCR IF PRESENT DO NOT USE.
0W-40 OILS ARE THE TOP OF THE RANGE BUT HARD TO FIND FOR A CRAFTIER ENGINE 4INLINE OR 5 INLINE: CASTROL EDGE SPORT 0W-40 VW 502 00/505 00 fore fills the former VW 503.01
As many oils have the same API rating 0W 40 beware of which variant you have Euro 3 Euro 4 as an example Euro 3 is rated 229.5 Euro 4 is rated 229.51 with different ACEA ratings.
Euro 5 is now available in Australia from July 2009 through to July 2011 after Euro 6 EEV kicks in.till 2016
The DPF will no longer be used after 2016 as to using an exclusive water cooling system via the EGR system.
Caltex Vortex Diesel 10pp/m or less with factory de-foaming and cleaning additives from refinery to pump. After three full tanks of 10/ppm your mileage for fuel economy as to both oils an fuel that meet the M11 FE standards should return at 110 Kilometers an hour with a GVM 3500 KG load of 6.9 liters per hundred kilometers. or 9.5 as a Urban terrorist.
Richard

[chopper1]

my dpf was blocked.
I took it out and filled with degreaser then let it sit for a day.
I then got a hi pressure cleaner and cleaned it out. there was a lot of gunk that came out and i re did the process.
Now no more limp mode or problems.

[gokhanyakin]

The vehicles used in the city are slow and the stop is used because the exhaust does not reach enough heat because the dpf filter is available. It is also necessary to run for 20 minutes and ensure that the exhaust reaches sufficient heat to be cleaned. the exhaust dfp filter that reaches enough heat will burn and exhaust the institutions in the filter. when you start to hear the smell of exhaust rubber burns, your dpf filter is being cleaned. After a while, the dpf filter will burn excess fuel and damage the injectors because of exhaust gas from the exhaust. this is the event we call the land event.
Best regrads.

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[junglebus]

Yep my 2011 Crafty 2.5 had a blocked DPF vw quoted $6000 for a new one inc labour , I found a guy that replaced the sensor and washed out the filter but the core was damaged so he found an after market filter $3000 fitted fine , it’s been 2 years now it’s starting to play up again, what about the egr? Clean or replace?