K and N 57i

[hkogti]

Hi guys,

Found a air induction kit from k and n for the GTi, anyone use this kit before?

It looks like it will suck a lot of hot air....

[Golf Houso]

Got a picture?

[Celestine]

Someone asked the same question a few weeks back. Useless, useless, useless. The pipe is the wrong angle, the battery will block your filter, and to cap it off, your sensors may be damaged with the oiled filter. In future, please use the search function.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=17830

[Bubu]

Someone asked the same question a few weeks back. Useless, useless, useless. The pipe is the wrong angle, the battery will block your filter, and to cap it off, your sensors may be damaged with the oiled filter. In future, please use the search function.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=17830

I wouldnt be so sure that its the "wrong angle". Nobody on this forum has actually tried it. K&N lists the Polo 1.8l in their application guide.

There are a number of people who run oiled type (including K&N) filters without any problems to their airflow meters or any other sensors. A few of those are Polo owners who use K&N insert on the factory airbox, including yourself Celestine. All K&N filters i have seen are oiled type. The trick to this one is not to use too much oil.

Assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups!!

[Blitzen]

I wouldnt be so sure that its the "wrong angle". Nobody on this forum has actually tried it. K&N lists the Polo 1.8l in their application guide.

There are a number of people who run oiled type (including K&N) filters without any problems to their airflow meters or any other sensors. A few of those are Polo owners who use K&N insert on the factory airbox, including yourself Celestine. All K&N filters i have seen are oiled type. The trick to this one is not to use too much oil.

And to cap it all off, K&N state that their filter oil WILL NOT damage your MAF sensor, and if the their oil has in any way damaged your MAF sensor, they WILL pay for the repairs to your car...

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massairpledge.htm

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/MAFTestresults.htm

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massairfindings.htm

[Spec83]

I am working on an apexi powerintake

Non-oiled pod filter

[Desmo]

And to cap it all off, K&N state that their filter oil WILL NOT damage your MAF sensor, and if the their oil has in any way damaged your MAF sensor, they WILL pay for the repairs to your car...

Here here, the sound of sanity not myth ...

[Tim]

Someone asked the same question a few weeks back. Useless, useless, useless. The pipe is the wrong angle, the battery will block your filter, and to cap it off, your sensors may be damaged with the oiled filter. In future, please use the search function.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=17830

looking at the instruction sheet they have listed. they show it fitted to a seat cupra. with pictures. The pipe you say that bends the wrong way actually looks like a flexible pipe. So you can probly bend it any which way you choose. Looking at the instructions though it sits the filter behind the battery. Surely not an ideal spot. A pod like this one might sound cool but ud want to get some fresh air to it somehow. And short of cutting a hole in your bonnet i dont see how to do that with this kit.

[Celestine]

I've got a K & N but it's not inserted into the stock airbox, so Babu that throws your idea about my car out the door.

The listed 1.8T is for previous gen Mk4's from what I've seen. You may as well purchase something that's been tried and tested and definately generates results - which ties back to Tim's comment of sitting behind the battery doesnt give yourself the air pressure required (Courtesy of Dave Mack's article in the 'Interesting Articles Section'). You'll get the noise but no go, so whats the point then?

Regards to the MAF sensor, I know of 3 people that have had their sensors ruined due to oiled pod filters. So is that sanity of myth - you can go judge yourself.

[Blitzen]

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Regards to the MAF sensor, I know of 3 people that have had their sensors ruined due to oiled pod filters. So is that sanity of myth - you can go judge yourself.

Thats fair enough. But did those 3 people take up the issue with the producer of the product they used?
This is the third car I have run with and Oiled Filter, and have never had any dramas with them. The previous one was a BMC panel filter , and before that, a K&N pod(unenclosed, and I used to over oil them to the ****house before I learned that it doesn't take WAY more than the recommended application of oil to re oil the filter!!!).
If I was to have any dramas with my panel filter oil damaging the MAF Sensor in any way, I would defiantly be taking K&N up on their consumer warranty. I think if they are that confident in their own product, and are willing to have this backed up by and independent tester(and lets not forget how the Yanks love their use of litigation if they don't get their own way), then IMO I really think I and anyone else using the K&N Filter Kits have nothing to worry about...But, at the end of the day, its personal choice, and its your hard eared cash that pays for it.

[Tim]

Regards to the MAF sensor, I know of 3 people that have had their sensors ruined due to oiled pod filters. So is that sanity of myth - you can go judge yourself.

Not arguing with you. Just interested in accurate information.

I think the jury is still out though. Do you know 3 people that have had their MAF sensors ruined by oiled filters or do you know 3 people that had oiled filters that had MAF sensors mess up.

If the latter is the case. I know hundreds of people that have had stock paper air filters and have had MAFs screw up.

How was the failure attributed to the oiled filter?

[hkogti]

Sorry guys, my corrcetion question should be if i want to run stage 2 software, i suppose to need a downpipe and an air intake kit, is that enough air to flow through by using the seat intake + panel filter route or i need to get that k and n 57i kit? Coz there are not much off the shelf kit avaliable on the market...

[Kai]

95000'ks of oiled filter so far. Not one issue. Just dont be a retard and spray a litre of oil on it.

[Blitzen]

Sorry guys, my corrcetion question should be if i want to run stage 2 software, i suppose to need a downpipe and an air intake kit, is that enough air to flow through by using the seat intake + panel filter route or i need to get that k and n 57i kit? Coz there are not much off the shelf kit avaliable on the market...

The best answer would be to ring the the supplier of the Stage 2 kit direct to get a firm answer. This will probably help you out more as they are the guys who know what is needed for optimum performance in the Stage 2 tune.
I have had no dramas running with a SEAT intake and K&N panel insert as it is, but I am running a stock ECU tune. This same set up is what I'll be running with when I get my ECU Stage one tune too.

[Celestine]

I know of 3 people that have ran with oiled pod filters that have eventually developed problems with their MAF sensors. All filters were not re-oiled as such as the faults developed far too early for them to even require cleaning. These occured in Mazda vehicles, but whether or not this holds true but dubs, I cant say. I've got a K&N pod filter on the end of mine, and before I even threw it on, I washed it down, and very lightly oiled it. I'm still wary, but I hope my luck doesnt run out.

Tim - all MAF sensors failed as there was a light buildup of oil around the inner metallic sensor, which caused the computers to throw check engine lights. 2 have been with K&N and one an Apex'i. None of the owners have bothered to claim their expenses through warrenty.