Sam's build thread

[sambb]

I just got an email from the NSW Hillclimb Championship panel. Rejoice rejoice they are going to change the classes next year to fall fully into line with the other CAMS regulated bodies. Road registered is one of the classes that will get a rejig. So instead of 0-2500cc and >2500cc (which is my class and just a way for blown V8's to smash all before them), they will be changing it into 3 classes of 0-2000cc, 2001cc-4000cc and >4001cc.
The bonus of that is that i'll be competitive at all events, not just banking everything on 1 or 2 events out of the 8, but the disadvantage is that I can't think of many cars that would even be in my class because to date its always been split into 2WD and 4WD. If its going to be an all drivelines class though that would be cool cos then I'd be in with EVO's, WRX's, Golf R's etc. One thing is for sure mmmracer over on the Skoda forum needs to make a come back with his 2 time <2.5L championship winning Fabia VRS so we can go head to head in the new 2-4L class. C'mon Matt!!!

Now I could do what these guys did and build an oversquare 1170cc block for the 20V 1.8T head which makes an equivalent capacity of 2000cc and dominate the bottom class with 370hp: VAG 1170cc Turbo 370Hp Dyno 4x4 KMS MD35 Blip / Powershift / ALS testing - YouTube, or stroke it to 2.1L and be near the top of the 2-4L class with an equivalent capacity of 3.6L. Sponsors?

edit: just got clarification. all the road registered classes will be "all drivelines classes" so 4WD, 2WD and everything in between as long as it has rego papers and engineers certificates for an mods that are a bit outrageous.

edit 2: actually now I'm worried. someone will probably enter a screaming 4.0L V8 Audi S4

[metalhead]

Interesting... My other car (pulled apart for paint at the moment) is an MG Midget with a supercharged 1330cc, would end up in that class too I guess.

Turbocharger modifications look good.

I have vids (including in car) of the event at Tamworth on YouTube if you wanted to get an idea what it was like.

[sambb]

Nice. there's a couple of little midgets and sprites that I've seen with blown engines on the hillclimb circuit. They look sick. Yeah I'll hunt for the vid. You can still have road reg and enter in a more favourable class if you get it log booked though - like marque sports or something like that.
I'm a bit special for sure. Now that they look like they'll lock in a 2000cc capped class I'm reading up on NA versions of my engine. I mean really who doesn't want quad throttle bodies poking out through the grille.

[metalhead]

I haven't specifically looked at the NSW Hillclimb classes but most of the time adding non-factory forced induction pushes a car out of Marque Sports, and basically means Improved Prod/Type3 (with an inlet restrictor) or sports sedans/type 4. Or a catchall street car class... Like the Vette it is purely a nice street car, wire wheels and all, but should still be decently quickish.

A search for "1979 Corvette Tamworth" should pop up the videos. There's some in the rain on the Saturday (practice) too.

A tough n/a engine in your Polo would be cool! Forced induction is generally a fair bit faster, but driving a tough n/a engine is a different and imo very enjoyable experience.

[metalhead]

My entry for next weekend was accepted too. See you there!

[sambb]

Cool. Yep i'm in and my mates Clio too. I'm praying for rain already.

[metalhead]

Praying for rain? Heresy! Anyway, had a good run yesterday, we got 6 runs in, and after my first run (on a very cold track) my next 5 runs were separated by just 0.14 seconds. Kinda frustrating when trying to improve! I was running about 8th outright after the first run, but finished the day 19th (58 competitors). The track was pretty cold all day. Ran a 44.57, what do you normally run on the A2 layout? Hope you don't mind me posting some video?:

See you next weekend.

[sambb]

Thats quick dude. I haven't run the A2 since last years state round. It was wet in the morning and then patchy and then more or less dry on the last run so a bit tricky, but your time would have put you at the very front. I did a 44.60 back then I think so you went quicker. - nice! the results should be up on the polo tracking thread or the MGCCN website from back then. I'm getting worried about you. You just did that round, you'll probably be able to do it in your sleep after Saturday practice and then i'll rock up on sunday morning after a lame coffee and you'll smash me.

[metalhead]

I didn't end up entering for the practice this coming weekend, I figured that given it was the same layout as yesterday that I wouldn't need it, and should probably spend at least Sat at home, and save my tyres a little. I ran 45.94 first run (I ran 4th, track was stone cold), then 44.71, 44.59, 44.67, 44.57 and 44.63... Might have to try something different if I want to get much more out of it! Doubt I'll beat you, I'm sure your car will be a fair bit quicker than last year won't it? If I pick up some semis at some point then I'd hope to be closer to you, but then next year we'd be in different classes anyway, from what you were posting earlier. But hey, I'll give you some competition if I can!

[sambb]

yeah you were definitely hovering in a sweet spot with your times. Your last 4 times within a tenth and a half shows you were tidy and probably getting all you could out of it. Did your fiddle with your tyre pressures much? Tell you what though if you can pull off those times again you'll be going close to a trophy. pretty tidy. My car will be a bit nippier than last time, less power but narrow softs instead of wider mediums have helped and the suspension dialled in a bit more. Diff will be the biggest thing though. I've decided to run with the front anti roll bar set to hard. I'm hoping i'll still get really good drive out of the corners cos of the diff, but want the front end to roll less when the inside rear gets in the air. If I have a turd first run though don't be surprised to see me under the car straight away putting it all back. Hey don't worry about the classes - I think in any capacity road reg every one is quietly eyeballing what the others are doing. Its always interesting seeing which cars and drivers come to the front at different tracks/conditions. I noticed that Woods in the Megane has entered - he can go in about 3 classes but can run in road reg >2.5L with us. It'll be interesting to see if we're still close. If he's way quicker than me on this course (without the extra loop/less straights) then it probably means he's faster in the corners than me. If the opposite happens though then i'll be stoked. If he rocks up shod with softs though, I won't even get a look in. I'm pumped - just want to get it happening and a bit nervous actually.


PS..... don't forget your rego papers. Not needed for the club events but you need it to prove you are a streeter/daily at the states

PPS..... I think you are last on track. I'm 64th sandwiched by the FPV and the clubsport and you are 71st. Road should be swept clear and hopefully a bit rubbered in for our first runs. I don't know how the open wheelers go out first on track in the morning and gun it like they do. Big testes, much like this guy:

check out this insanity - Graeme Wight Junior Predator V10 Doune Hill Climb - YouTube

[metalhead]

Haven't played with tyre pressures really yet, guess I probably need to be thinking about that soon. I'd just been setting it to 31psi on all 4 corners after a run, which seems to work decent, while I concentrate on getting a handle on the car.

Thanks for tip on the rego paper. I wonder where I put it... I do have a photo of it, reckon they'd accept that?

Yep, last out. Given the last two club events I've run third and fourth on the list, I'll be happy not to have to run first thing in the morning! Would've been interesting to get my first run on Sunday on camera, it was slippery! But I hadn't had time to get the camera running.

[metalhead]

Oh, and Steve Woods ran a 43.22 on Sunday...

[sambb]

Sh**t!

[metalhead]

Lol!

Just watched that video, that was awesome... Pretty serious machines in that hillclimb!

[sambb]

I can maybe find 7/10th off the line compared to my old time, but to then find another 7-8/10ths over such a short run is a lot. Yeah those cars are insane - they are basically willing to die for it hey.