Polli's progress thread (2007 Pog) - Pic heavy thread!

[h100vw]

New Front Suspension Bush VAG POLO IV Fabia Removal Installation Tool Kit B2040 | eBay

this is mine

[Euromy]

Ahh, assumed it wasn't an eBay kit because it was shiny (have one for the rear calipers and Nothing but the tape on it is shiny )
I'll definitely hit you up for a loan as can't really justify buying that for just one or two uses.

[Blue9N3]

Front lower control arm bushes when shot seemed to create understeer for me when turning hard (outside front wheel toes out as the bush gets squashed). It was a weird feeling, almost like you were winding off a bit of lock mid corner.

Maybe it's the rear beam bushes? Shot ones would result in toe out on the outside rear wheel making the car want to rotate. Might be related to the bump rattle too. Doing those got rid of a weird mid corner instability on mine, a bit like winding in more lock.

Then again, you mentioned braking hard in a turn, which depending on how you do it might be the problem....


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[Euromy]

Yeah, front control arm bushes look fine to me when up on a hoist but I don't think i trust them, previous owner claims to have replaced them but I get a knock from the front end every time i reverse down the driveway.



I don't know how to check the rear ones properly but good chance they might need to be replaced as it does feel unstable/unpredictable.



And hard braking hard while changing direction tends to rotate if I decide to stay on them, but to me that's expected l. Was just implying that under hard braking it feels alright.

[Blue9N3]

Mine still knocks despite replacing all those bushes. Only thing left are the. Swaybar links


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[Euromy]

Mine still knocks despite replacing all those bushes. Only thing left are the. Swaybar links


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Does yours feel loose at times?
Over certain bumps there's sometimes a lack of steering feel.

[Blue9N3]

Nah, everything feels super tight (poly bushes in most places), knock seems to only be a noise (for now)


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[Euromy]

Yeah, probably lca bushings gone now.
How are the poly bushes?
Alot harsher than stock?

[Blue9N3]

I found them ok. Got nolathane front lower control arm bushes and white line rear beam lock bushes (sorta like pineapples)


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[Euromy]

I found them ok. Got nolathane front lower control arm bushes and white line rear beam lock bushes (sorta like pineapples)


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Ok, might busy go with the seat for now as not looking for anything harsher.

[seangti]

Ok, might busy go with the seat for now as not looking for anything harsher.

I've got the seat sport bushes in my daily, along with bilstein struts. It handles exceptionally well.

Not the discount the oversteer as something mechanical, the oversteer could also be a result of your driving style on the stock set-up. You will find its limitations quite early, but go aftermarket and it'll transform that.

Obiously when braking hard you get weight transfer which increases grip/load on the front and lightens the rear, as you add some lock onto that the rear can come around (i.e unbalance the car). Being on stock suspension that transfer along with rear wheel travel is quite high. On the track, this behaviour can be good (I'm somewhat chasing this), though on the street it's not a comfortable balance. I don't know your driving ability/style so i mean no offence, you want to get as much of the hard braking done at the start of the braking zone & as you get closer towards the corner, come off the brakes a little to get the rear to settle before tipping it. If your braking is getting heavier the closer you get the corner/turn-in point, you'll unbalance the car (that being either understeer or oversteer), which is not what you want = poor braking technique for aggressive/track oriented driving.

Great to see another polo out getting amongst track events.

[Euromy]

I've got the seat sport bushes in my daily, along with bilstein struts. It handles exceptionally well.

Not the discount the oversteer as something mechanical, the oversteer could also be a result of your driving style on the stock set-up. You will find its limitations quite early, but go aftermarket and it'll transform that.

Obiously when braking hard you get weight transfer which increases grip/load on the front and lightens the rear, as you add some lock onto that the rear can come around (i.e unbalance the car). Being on stock suspension that transfer along with rear wheel travel is quite high. On the track, this behaviour can be good (I'm somewhat chasing this), though on the street it's not a comfortable balance. I don't know your driving ability/style so i mean no offence, you want to get as much of the hard braking done at the start of the braking zone & as you get closer towards the corner, come off the brakes a little to get the rear to settle before tipping it. If your braking is getting heavier the closer you get the corner/turn-in point, you'll unbalance the car (that being either understeer or oversteer), which is not what you want = poor braking technique for aggressive/track oriented driving.

Great to see another polo out getting amongst track events.

Yeah, just noticed that where I usually get oversteer is on roundabouts, otherwise it's the expected understeer.
What stumps me is when it happens on a flat roundabout with zero throttle or brake input and not being aggressive with the steering and the rear end just swings out, think it just doesn't like the change of direction.

On the track the car was a tad on the understeer side, but I can just feel the rear end being dragged out multiple times though a corner, I think that's esp trying to correct me though.
In the wet for me I really need to take advantage of weight transfer if I want to enter anything at a medium-decent pace otherwise I understeer massively, but I do need to change my habits to braking hard early as I'm used to doing the opposite with the old car and just trail braking into corners.

I think my problem at the moment is that I'm not used to the short wheelbase, plus I have zero confidence in the brakes and tyres.
What tyre pressures are recommended? Think I mentioned it before that I'm running about 38 front and 36 rear, which are pretty much the factory recommended as that's killed a bit of understeer weirdly and made the car feel more neutral.

[seangti]

You want to try carry throttle into the apex and accelerate out. Even if very light throttle, that'll stop the rear trying to overtake the front end.

The factory suspension set up wasn't good from recollection, too soft and not overly adjustable, though it's also been too many years since I've driven on stock stuff, so it just may not be as adjustable as you're seeking.

Those tyre pressures are fine, but probably a bit high for street driving IMO. I'd run that on track, but 34-36 on street.