Whiteline RSB + Liftoff Oversteer

[shaneth]

With one of the other threads going slightly off topic i thought i would start a new thread so we can discuss it properly. For those that have it, what are your thoughts. PLease elaborate on all details. And please NO BICKERING, if you differ in opinion then so be it, everyone is entitiled to there opinion.

Personally like i have said before, one of the cheapest and effective suspension mods i think you can do. Have never experienced any oversteer at all and that is on the hardest setting.

[Flaps]

I have mine on the medium setting and I get lift off oversteer on the track.

[GT3]

Has happened, but once you know the threshold, you can avoid it/back off in time.

[99gti]

Not a polo but I can hang my rear end out like a drift car on a 90 degree bend

Just control the front with the throttle and keep the rear out - loads of fun.

[Timbo]

I think the key word is "unintended"

[99gti]

Lol - the first time it happened it was. Subsequent attempts were self induced

[VW GTI]

With one of the other threads going slightly off topic i thought i would start a new thread so we can discuss it properly. For those that have it, what are your thoughts. PLease elaborate on all details. And please NO BICKERING, if you differ in opinion then so be it, everyone is entitiled to there opinion.

Personally like i have said before, one of the cheapest and effective suspension mods i think you can do. Have never experienced any oversteer at all and that is on the hardest setting.

Shaneth, could the fact that your car doesn't have enough power (yet) be the reason you haven't experienced it?

[philthy]

Had a fat whiteline RSB on my mazda astina. Was fun but as noted by others had a tendency to make the car snap oversteer in a big way.

Went round a corner in the wet one night a bit quick and the back end let go and smacked into the gutter. That's called learning the hard way.. (stuffed pretty much the whole rear suspension)

I'm sure the sway bar would be fine if you set the rest of the suspension up to suit, but on its own I agree that it's dangerous. Never again.

[Blitzen]

I have had mine on for a few months now and love how it has made the car handle...After reading what was said in the other thread this morning, a couple of mates and I went for a bit of a drive out to Litchfield National Park, and had a bit of fun through the windies out there. The speed limit out there is 130km/h, and varying degrees of tightness to the corners(long open flat out corners, to tight 2nd/3rd gear corners, many tightening), and I really tried to get some lift off over steer(really tried!!), and had nothing...I did however find out my mates Mazda 323 Familia GTR 1.8T AWD is no match for a Polo GTI on semi slicks in terms of acceleration and cornering...
I think if you are going to track your car alot or compete in tarmac rallies, you might want to think twice about adding it, but for day to day driving and weekend windie stuff fun, I personally think it is a great addition to the car.
Also, I (ME) really think whether the car has been chipped or not wouldn't have too much of a difference to the way the car handles the rear sway bar. I think that tyre choice and driver abilitly have more of a bearing on it. I have found though, that the Rear Sway Bar had made it easier to scandi flick into corners on the Continentals, but it is much harder to do on the Federals.

[MACCAA]

Talk about urban myths!
Timbo and I have extensively tested RSB's at Wakefield,Winton and Eastern Creek..
We have had ZERO handling problems with it on it's stiffest setting.Even attempts to upset the handling with trail braking and lift off into corners have failed.
Please don't tell us of other makes of cars with rsb's and handling problems.The variables[tyres,pressures,shocks,alignment ]are such as to make any comments meaningless.
All things being equal,a correctly set up Polo GTI with a RSB is very forgiving.
We have done the testing and our results lap-time wise prove it.
If you're having problems with a RSB you need to look a bit further at set up or driver input...
Cheers
Len

[VW GTI]

Talk about urban myths!
Timbo and I have extensively tested RSB's at Wakefield,Winton and Eastern Creek..
We have had ZERO handling problems with it on it's stiffest setting.Even attempts to upset the handling with trail braking and lift off into corners have failed.
Please don't tell us of other makes of cars with rsb's and handling problems.The variables[tyres,pressures,shocks,alignment ]are such as to make any comments meaningless.
All things being equal,a correctly set up Polo GTI with a RSB is very forgiving.
We have done the testing and our results lap-time wise prove it.
If you're having problems with a RSB you need to look a bit further at set up or driver input...
Cheers
Len

You should at least say 'in my opinion' rather than pretending that what you've said is gospel. Maybe you don't have the driving skills to be able to make it happen, or the rest of your set up made it non-existent.

[Flaps]

[MACCAA]

You should at least say 'in my opinion' rather than pretending that what you've said is gospel. Maybe you don't have the driving skills to be able to make it happen, or the rest of your set up made it non-existent.

Whatever.....

[MACCAA]

Ha Ha Ha Flaps
Cheers
Len

[99gti]

Take a chill pill and relax u lot...