Performance

[Sydman]

Hi

I'm seriously considering a couple of APR bits and pieces for my polo.

I was thinking of upgrading the turbo to the K04 + software and getting the straight through exhaust as well.

Any thoughts, as its fairly big money. Is the bigger turbo worth it?

[Mischa]

garrett gt28 ftw!! http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/stage3plus_trans.html

not that i know anything about your engine but heck 350hp you cant say no to that

[jasn78]

sydman depends have u sorted out everything else first? i.e brakes suspension lsd fmic etc? if u have well then after being taken for a spin in guys car i would but to be honest im having enough traction problems atm with all mods except lsd and without a k04 so wouldnt even consider it until u get that all sorted

[PeterHBne]

Speaking from a purely personal perspective - I can't understand how anyone could consider 1 horsepower more before improving suspension and brakes.

The reason the standard GTI is detuned to 110kw is because that is probably just over more than it can safely handle.

[Sydman]

sydman depends have u sorted out everything else first? i.e brakes suspension lsd fmic etc? if u have well then after being taken for a spin in guys car i would but to be honest im having enough traction problems atm with all mods except lsd and without a k04 so wouldnt even consider it until u get that all sorted

yeah the traction does seem to be an issue, even as stock. is the FMIC necessary? im pretty ignorant when it cms to all this, so im happy to learn as i go. i thought LSD would assist with the traction, brakes not an issue as a mate is a supplier of brembo's so i can get them pretty cheap and easy. will i/should i also look at the suspension?

[Bubu]

The APR stage 3 is not such a bad idea. Think of it this way, if you get it all done at once you wont have to pay for things twice.

I wouldnt be surprised if a few people go for a KO4. Then, later down the track, decide they want even more power and spend money again on a turbo to get the GT28. This way you get it all at once and you will know that you got some good hardware without having to upgrade the same parts twice.

The traction/barkes/suspension may require some attention but you can focus on these later on. Just cause you have a great deal of power it dosent mean you have to use it all everytime you accelerate. Just take it a bit easy till you get the traction/brakes/suspension sorted.

[Timbo]

There's plenty of information on here, in terms of people's experiences on various set-ups, if you spend a bit of time searching and poking about.

Personally, I am of the school that says it is foolish NOT to upgrade brakes and suspension at the same time as power, especially as the stock Pog brakes can only be described as 'adequate'. It's a hard lesson to learn

[GT3]

Any thoughts, as its fairly big money. Is the bigger turbo worth it?

Best way to approach it is to increase your knowledge, before purchasing anything. Everyone has an opinion, but if you're considering APR (for instance) then you could discuss your plans with Guy directly. The most important thing is to work out what you want to achieve, and the pros and cons of each mod and the $$$$ in getting there.

[Ben_GTI]

especially as the stock Pog brakes can only be described as 'adequate'. It's a hard lesson to learn

Well so far I found the tyres to give up before the brakes do, but the brakes can get pretty stinky after a while. Do you find for street the brakes are okay?

I think an LSD just means you can destroy two tyres at once instead of one at a time hahaha.

[Sydman]

cheers guys for your input. i might spend a bit of time trolling through past threads to see what other people have thought.

[R1 Crasher]

Perhaps someone could explain the differences in ECU upgrade prices in AU compared to the U.K. where generally things are more expensive than here.
Ie,At the moment Awesome Gti are doing APR Stage 1 chip tunes for 375.00 UK pounds at current exchange rates thats $800Au,yet here its $1750. Why more than double?
Surely the cost to the distibutor from APR would be the same the world over.I realise that Australia is a smaller market than the UK. But to be more than 100% more smacks of taking advantage of that small market.

[FL00DY]

Perhaps someone could explain the differences in ECU upgrade prices in AU compared to the U.K. where generally things are more expensive than here.
Ie,At the moment Awesome Gti are doing APR Stage 1 chip tunes for 375.00 UK pounds at current exchange rates thats $800Au,yet here its $1750. Why more than double?
Surely the cost to the distibutor from APR would be the same the world over.I realise that Australia is a smaller market than the UK. But to be more than 100% more smacks of taking advantage of that small market.

Ok where's my popcorn and recliner

It's a good question, all I'll add to the mix is GIAC is cheaper

[R1 Crasher]

Ok where's my popcorn and recliner

It's a good question, all I'll add to the mix is GIAC is cheaper

How much cheaper 1oo%?

If not the ? still remains

[FL00DY]

How much cheaper 1oo%?

If not the ? still remains

No, not 100%. But it brings the 'smaller market then the UK' argument closer to reason.

[jasn78]

just waiting round to c when admin steps in on this one lol