Addressing my gearbox

[Bflat]

Hey gang.

It's about time I sorted my gearbox out.

Each gear's got it's own sort of noise which is starting to bother me no end. Makes the car sound like a heap of **** whilst driving it.

First gear is the worst culprit, I've been told the main drive is pitted and as such I tend to short shift first as it's noisy as all fcuk.

3rd is pretty whiny too.

I'm planning on taking the car off the road for however long it'll take to perform the task of fixing it up so it doesn't sound like it's got straight cut gears.

My question to my fellow polo brethren is whether I should do extra work whilst the box is out.

My options are as follows:
1) Fix the gears
2) Fix the gears + LSD
3) Fix the gears + LSD + Clutch Upgrade
4) Fix the gears + LSD + Clutch Upgrade + flywheel (SM/DM)

Budget isn't an issue at the moment, but I don't want to go overkill if I'm not going to see any advantages.

Useful information: I may track it in the future. It's currently 130 odd kw atw. I plan on ditching the stance it's currently exhibiting for a more practical and 'fun' height so as to utilise the power available at all times (other than just point and shoot as it happens at the moment).

Share your knowledge, get into a keyboard war, call each other names, I don't care I just want opinions at this stage.

I'll be investing in some quality rubber to go onto a set of lightweight OZ rims i've got lying around too so the mods will be channeled to the ground accordingly.

[lol.u.mad.bro]

bloody polo drivers

[lol.u.mad.bro]

you won't win peoples choice with mod's no one can see!

[VWindahouse]

All depends on how much power you want in the future IMO. If you were going something like Stage III+ I would personally get the following;

SQS 5 speed upgraded syncro gear set with longer usable ratios
7lb fidanza lightweight flywheel (ECS)
either Stage II (250whp) or III (400whp) clutch kit from ECS
Wavetrac TBD

And then proudly FTW

[Bflat]

you won't win peoples choice with mod's no one can see!

Lol, got enough awards lately to keep me happy for long enough

All depends on how much power you want in the future IMO. If you were going something like Stage III+ I would personally get the following;

SQS 5 speed upgraded syncro gear set with longer usable ratios
7lb fidanza lightweight flywheel (ECS)
either Stage II (250whp) or III (400whp) clutch kit from ECS
Wavetrac TBD

And then proudly FTW

Got any links for me to get a semi over?

[VWindahouse]

Lol yep

SQS Racing | VW 5sp Synchro-kit 02J

Volkswagen Golf IV 1.8T > Drivetrain > Clutch > ES#1386 7lbs Lightweight Aluminum Flywheel With Ring Gear - 228mm - 187121

Volkswagen Golf IV 1.8T > Drivetrain > Clutch > ES#5863 Stage 3 Clutch Kit - Without Flywheel - 17-036-HDTZKT

Wavetrac® Differential - A torque biasing differential with a difference

[Jarred]

I wouldn't bother with an LSD at this stage. If you were going to get very serious (I'm talking because racecar) with it, then yea. But that's hard to know until you get out there and start doing it, imo. (Hence why I won't be going too nuts on the becauseraceseat until I've got some good track time and can better decide what direction I want to take it, and how far etc)

Perhaps a second hand box might be the cheaper alternative for now? (I know, cost not an object)

I'd get a new clutch regardless, and maybe flywheel, but I don't know what works best on pogs in regards to lightened flywheels etc.

[Bflat]

I wouldn't bother with an LSD at this stage. If you were going to get very serious (I'm talking because racecar) with it, then yea. But that's hard to know until you get out there and start doing it, imo. (Hence why I won't be going too nuts on the becauseraceseat until I've got some good track time and can better decide what direction I want to take it, and how far etc)

Perhaps a second hand box might be the cheaper alternative for now? (I know, cost not an object)

I'd get a new clutch regardless, and maybe flywheel, but I don't know what works best on pogs in regards to lightened flywheels etc.

Good call. I'm not a fan of the supposed loss in everyday driveability with the lightened fly wheel.
The risk with a 2nd hand box is the possibility of it being just as rubbish as my current one.

[Jarred]

Yep, that's true! (I also have no idea what a 2nd hand polo box goes for)

[Bflat]

Lol yep

SQS Racing | VW 5sp Synchro-kit 02J

Volkswagen Golf IV 1.8T > Drivetrain > Clutch > ES#1386 7lbs Lightweight Aluminum Flywheel With Ring Gear - 228mm - 187121

Volkswagen Golf IV 1.8T > Drivetrain > Clutch > ES#5863 Stage 3 Clutch Kit - Without Flywheel - 17-036-HDTZKT

Wavetrac® Differential - A torque biasing differential with a difference

I'll be right back

[VWindahouse]

Sorry forget the 7lb flywheel if you're worried about the chatter at idle.

[noone]

If you're sticking with the K03, Just fix / replace the box with something (Mk4 box fit)?

With semi's up front, you get most of the power down (well, I do), without dropping a lot of coin just to have it sound normal.

Are you using Redline MTL / Redline MT-90 in the box? has helped some with noise (I'm probably due for a fluid swap).

If you were planning on a BT, then fix the box and LSD.

[h100vw]

Fix the gears + Clutch Upgrade + flywheel SM

You can miss the diff if you retain the K03s in my opinion.

Troy has a std clutch still (wtf) I don't mind a bit of chatter so went SMF. Having done 50km in Anthony's with the VT mounts, I don't see any of my money going there.

Find another box and just do a swap over. Are you doing it yourself or paying a man?

Gavin

Gavin

[Stuwey]

Did you notice any 'bad' drivability errors in my car when you drive it?

Fix box. LWFW and clutch. Fit Quaife ATB.

Have (immense) fun.

[Jmac]

Bflat, mate that car looks super good in that sig mate. .
Just saying.
Can I ask why someone would swap out and fit a Mk4 Gti box?? its the same apart from some outer casing difference they still haver their troubles too, to be honest in the last 5 yrs I seen more mk4 o2J dramas over the 02R tbh.. Awesome upgrade would be the tough 6 speed. No matter what Vw or Audi you have the Achilles heel is the tranny always has been, but still with the volume on the roads they are not so bad really, I ran my gig for nearly 5 years and didn't see many major lunch jobs, some yes but not lots. First job as an apprentice in 88 was an 020 lunched diff, that was in 88, we now in 2013 and we all still talking gearboxes. , first thing you should try is redline, it realy does make a difference, you have to give it couple hundred ks for it to wick into the bearings and gears.
If you have money to burn then you could upgrade the gears themselves. To conclude apart from the odd case hardening drama or syncro drama I probably seen more issues with ones that have had diffs fitted.
Good luck mate
Cheers
Jmac