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    My build is taking forever.
    I will put up a build thread later but at this stage.
    But for now I am picking up my car from
    a fabricator (who sat on it for two weeks) and sending it to Westside Mufflers at Padstow to
    get the exhaust built, 3in right thru, the intake side of the intercooler piping made up to 2.5in
    plus a heat shield.

    The Relentless V3 manifold puts the turbo in a different spot to the original Polo manifold.
    The intercooler charge pipe now runs up from the turbo and then
    either across the firewall then forward to the intercooler like an S3 or I can just run the charge pipe forward
    and run a single pass intercooler.

    This means that I have to change the end tanks on the THS Seat intercooler
    or buy a single pass intercooler and
    sell the THS.

    Or I can just run the charge pipe across the motor. (cheapest option)


    Which way should I go?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Redliner View Post
    My build is taking forever.
    I will put up a build thread later but at this stage.
    But for now I am picking up my car from
    a fabricator (who sat on it for two weeks) and sending it to Westside Mufflers at Padstow to
    get the exhaust built, 3in right thru, the intake side of the intercooler piping made up to 2.5in
    plus a heat shield.

    The Relentless V3 manifold puts the turbo in a different spot to the original Polo manifold.
    The intercooler charge pipe now runs up from the turbo and then
    either across the firewall then forward to the intercooler like an S3 or I can just run the charge pipe forward
    and run a single pass intercooler.

    This means that I have to change the end tanks on the THS Seat intercooler
    or buy a single pass intercooler and
    sell the THS.

    Or I can just run the charge pipe across the motor. (cheapest option)


    Which way should I go?

    Without a doubt, if you are having pipes made I'd be on a single pass and offload the THS.

    A 3 inch system will be pretty boomy in my experience. Had one on my A3 with the JBS04. I have 2.5 on my Polo now and I think that's a good compromise, with 3 inch downpipe.

    Any pictures????

    Gavin
    optimumcode@gmail.com | https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/for...i-;-79012.html | https://www.facebook.com/TTY-Euro-107982291992533

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    • #3
      Originally posted by h100vw View Post
      Without a doubt, if you are having pipes made I'd be on a single pass and offload the THS.

      A 3 inch system will be pretty boomy in my experience. Had one on my A3 with the JBS04. I have 2.5 on my Polo now and I think that's a good compromise, with 3 inch downpipe.

      Any pictures????

      Gavin

      Pictures will come. Still waiting to get my car back first. I will do a build thread with a review of all the components I'm changing.

      With regards to exhaust, I was hoping a resonator would remove most of the booming.
      I am expecting some droning, just hoping not too much. I don't want to compromise the performance.


      To be honest I am really happy with the THS intercooler but the opportunity to install a singe pass
      may be too good to refuse. I just don't to delay the build any longer either.

      Should I cut the end tanks off the THS or buy a different intercooler.
      The THS has an excellent core and its huge. Just seems a shame to chop it up!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Redliner View Post
        With regards to exhaust, I was hoping a resonator would remove most of the booming.
        I am expecting some droning, just hoping not too much. I don't want to compromise the performance.
        For what it's worth, my Polo has a custom 3" exhaust from turbo back, and it drones in the most horrible way. Driving it at highway speeds is an absolute nightmare. It sounds fantastic at WOT and I'm very happy with the performance, but if I was to go back to driving the Polo every day I'd be going back to the 2.5" system I had previously.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jamesatfish View Post
          For what it's worth, my Polo has a custom 3" exhaust from turbo back, and it drones in the most horrible way. Driving it at highway speeds is an absolute nightmare. It sounds fantastic at WOT and I'm very happy with the performance, but if I was to go back to driving the Polo every day I'd be going back to the 2.5" system I had previously.

          What this man says! It's not just the silencing, there's a heap of noise comes out the side of the pipework too. 2.5 inch won't be a compromise, have a look what size pipes the Golf R uses as standard.

          Don't chock the THS up, buy another I/C. My Seat Sport is dropping at least 3PSI I reckon. Gash measuring, using 2 boost gauges, one on the turbo outlet the other on the inlet manifold.

          Gavin
          optimumcode@gmail.com | https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/for...i-;-79012.html | https://www.facebook.com/TTY-Euro-107982291992533

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          • #6
            I'll have a talk to the exhaust shop and see what they say as well.
            Is there anyone else running a 3 inch system? If so what are your thoughts.

            I'll get a price on a new intercooler and see what the total cost is. Makes sense to
            do it now.
            Anyone in the market for a THS Seat intercooler.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Redliner View Post
              I'll have a talk to the exhaust shop and see what they say as well.
              Is there anyone else running a 3 inch system? If so what are your thoughts.

              I'll get a price on a new intercooler and see what the total cost is. Makes sense to
              do it now.
              Anyone in the market for a THS Seat intercooler.
              IM running a full 3" non-res tbe albeit on a golf not a polo though. Tbh it can get a little annoying on the highway but just sounds so good at wot. On a k03/04 frame turbo 2.5" is plenty, any bigger and I'd go 3"
              <<Mk7 Golf R | Ecotune reflex | PMax G25-660 >>

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              • #8
                Thanks for your input.

                Originally posted by Lito View Post
                IM running a full 3" non-res tbe albeit on a golf not a polo though. Tbh it can get a little annoying on the highway but just sounds so good at wot. On a k03/04 frame turbo 2.5" is plenty, any bigger and I'd go 3"
                I think I will go 3 inch. I'll run a resonator with it. Spoke to Paul from Westside and he said that with good mufflers it shouldn't drone too much. I will only drive it on weekends so I can put up with a bit of noise.

                I will go for a single pass intercooler. Leaning towards changing the end tanks on the THS as it has such a good core. Plus it fits well across the front of the Polo. Unless I can get a good single pass bar and plate intercooler at a good price. Any suggestions!

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                • #9
                  So many good off-the-shelf single pass coolers, seems a shame to hack the THS (then again, its got the bracketry all good to go).

                  Id be concerned about making it have eddies and weird airflow, but I might be overestimating the engineering that goes into a cooler.

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                  • #10
                    You could hit up Bill @ Badger 5 in the UK for one of these beauties



                    Ah Junior, is there anything you've done to your Polo that isn't pure porn

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by noone View Post
                      So many good off-the-shelf single pass coolers, seems a shame to hack the THS (then again, its got the bracketry all good to go).

                      Id be concerned about making it have eddies and weird airflow, but I might be overestimating the engineering that goes into a cooler.
                      I agree about the air flow.
                      Not sure if it was designed as a dual pass having larger gaps to improve airflow. Seem to recall that it was the same core that they use for their golf single pass ones, though not sure.

                      The fact that it fits already, albeit just is a major positive.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by VWindahouse View Post
                        You could hit up Bill @ Badger 5 in the UK for one of these beauties



                        Ah Junior, is there anything you've done to your Polo that isn't pure porn
                        Looks good, but to be honest I am sick of waiting for my car to be finished. I don't want to wait for shipping from the UK.
                        There has to be some good or better Australian alternatives.

                        Is that 2.5in or 3in piping?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Should I change my intercooler to a single pass

                          I got the wellycooler which is the cheaper version of this ah fab intercooler

                          Took just over week to arrive..... Tell me about waiting I'm just over it and cbf these days

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                          aiming for 200kw atw
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                          • #14
                            Should I change my intercooler to a single pass

                            If it was menu would look at an ARE cooler
                            Originally posted by seangti
                            The price of the car rarely indicates driver ability/lap time.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jasn78 View Post
                              If it was menu would look at an ARE cooler
                              The ARE coolers look good. Just thinking that for that sort of money ($400 for the core) I may
                              as well just put new end tanks on the THS. I see what Paul from Westside thinks when he inspects the car.

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