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  • #16
    Thanks VWindahouse, excellent info in one concise post. Wasn't aware the GTI was 15mm lower than a Std 9n, important to know. I might go and annoy a suspension specialist and get some recommendations.
    09 Polo GTi "Elke" | APR DV1 | H&R 35mm | Bilstein B8 | Remsa Pads | Pioneer |

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    • #17
      I lowered mine using just H&R springs. the novelty of how good it looked lowered wore off after about a week. Its back to standard height now, It was just too uncomfortable to live with everyday on rough roads. (mind you inner west Sydney rds are particularly bad)

      I imported my H&R springs for $210 from orangetuning. but like I said unless you want and uncomfortable ride I wouldn't do just the springs, buy some coil-overs or leave it standard height and spend money making it go faster.

      cheers
      2008 POLO GTI - SOLD
      2005 MkV Golf GTI - couldn't resist

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      • #18
        Originally posted by flashpixx View Post
        seems that coils alone are not a favoured option. Is this because the struts are partially compressed so do not perform optimally - ie part of the travel has been removed due to lowering = partial compression??

        Help me understand...
        The underlying problem is the change in spring rate - when the springs are shorter, they need to be stiffer to prevent the car bottoming out so the spring rate is higher. The dampers (their proper name, springs absorb shock) have their rate matched to the springs so that the wheel movement is controlled properly and when the springs alone have their rate increased, the damping will not be enough to prevent some degree of overshoot in response to bumps. This leads to the car having a bouncy ride which unsettles it in corners.

        Also, the OE dampers will get worn much more quickly with the extra force they are subjected to with lowering springs. Good aftermarket dampers are better made as well as having heavier damping.
        Resident grumpy old fart
        VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS

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        • #19
          New look with smaller tyres, wider wheels, and more lows all round.

          The rear is maxed out and won't go any lower, whereas the front still has about an inch of drop still available.

          Excuse the filthy state it was in on Saturday.



          Last edited by Bflat; 19-11-2012, 07:30 AM.

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          • #20
            Lowering for aesthetics

            I like it. Cleaner than mine.

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            • #21
              Slighty off subject, Nice wheels Ryan, What are they and wht are the specs?
              06 VW 9N3 Polo GTI - Reflex Silver Leather/OEM Colour coded S/guard/OEM Lower Honeycombe Grille/NSP Boost Gauge/APR Stage 1+,Dogbone & DP/K&N filter/Forge s/shift,DV008 & Strut brace/PD 160/Samco camo TIP/Whitline RSB/FK AK's/17 x 8 Oettiger RE's/Alpine Head Unit & Sony Amp. OEM+FTW

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Smead View Post
                Slighty off subject, Nice wheels Ryan, What are they and wht are the specs?
                Hey Sime, they're Autostrada Modena's, 16x8 all round, ET34 rear ET29 front. Running 195/45/16 Hankook Ventus'

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                • #23
                  Great wheels, love em!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bflat View Post
                    New look with smaller tyres, wider wheels, and more lows all round.

                    The rear is maxed out and won't go any lower, whereas the front still has about an inch of drop still available.
                    Very pretty, I suppose but how is this relevant to the thread? (kinda like posting about Nissan Micras in the "What I did Today" thread )
                    Resident grumpy old fart
                    VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by kaanage View Post
                      Very pretty, I suppose but how is this relevant to the thread? (kinda like posting about Nissan Micras in the "What I did Today" thread )
                      It's entirely relevant as it provides an example of how low the AP's can go, whilst still being perfectly drive-able (there's mainly a focus on aesthetics going on)

                      And it was the 'what did you do to your Polo' title of the thread that made the Micra comment irrelevant

                      If we had a 'what I did today' thread people might as well close their facebook accounts.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bflat View Post
                        Hey Sime, they're Autostrada Modena's, 16x8 all round, ET34 rear ET29 front. Running 195/45/16 Hankook Ventus'
                        Sweet. That pic needs a like button
                        06 VW 9N3 Polo GTI - Reflex Silver Leather/OEM Colour coded S/guard/OEM Lower Honeycombe Grille/NSP Boost Gauge/APR Stage 1+,Dogbone & DP/K&N filter/Forge s/shift,DV008 & Strut brace/PD 160/Samco camo TIP/Whitline RSB/FK AK's/17 x 8 Oettiger RE's/Alpine Head Unit & Sony Amp. OEM+FTW

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Smead View Post
                          Sweet. That pic needs a like button
                          ^ +1 .
                          Polo 9n3 GTI

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bflat View Post
                            It's entirely relevant as it provides an example of how low the AP's can go, whilst still being perfectly drive-able (there's mainly a focus on aesthetics going on)

                            And it was the 'what did you do to your Polo' title of the thread that made the Micra comment irrelevant

                            If we had a 'what I did today' thread people might as well close their facebook accounts.
                            And so the thread gets derailed into another wheel porn discussion.
                            I'm betting you do have bump steer issues in hard cornering going that low
                            Resident grumpy old fart
                            VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS

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                            • #29
                              To those going super low, do you guys not have issues with the rear axle hitting the exhaust, either going over large bumps or with people in the back?

                              My car isn't the lowest and I have issues with the axle hitting/rubbing the exhaust when I have a decent sized person in the rear seat and I put load on the engine/go over large bumps...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jasonc23 View Post
                                To those going super low, do you guys not have issues with the rear axle hitting the exhaust, either going over large bumps or with people in the back?

                                My car isn't the lowest and I have issues with the axle hitting/rubbing the exhaust when I have a decent sized person in the rear seat and I put load on the engine/go over large bumps...
                                Never had that issue tbh (not that I can hear it). Is your rear half still 2"?

                                I'm betting you do have bump steer issues in hard cornering going that low
                                Greg, if I wanted to indulge in hard cornering, do you think I would have set it up this way? 99% of my driving is on inner suburban roads where hard cornering is hardly possible, let alone responsible. The thread title is 'lowering for aesthetics' for a reason. Once again, I think you'll find your passionate pleas to have the control arms above horizontal will go ignored by many as we don't all have the same desires for our car as you do yours. I didn't jump into this thread to yell about my new wheels. I provided further evidence of how one may want to setup their polo through picture based evidence.
                                It's not all about the best lap time.

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