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    Hey guys!

    I just got my Polo GTI today! Can't wait to mod it, but I'm unsure whether should I tune first or should I replace the other parts first such as suspensions/cold air intake etc. As far as budget goes, I doubt I'll be able to purchase everything at one go. I've scoured the forums for a bit and I noticed that some said to tune first, and others, later.

    I would probably have enough to get a tune, cold air intake & filter, DV and probably a short shifter. What sort of mod would make the sound of the turbo more distinct? A new exhaust?

    Sorry if it sounds really stupid but this is my first time at modding a car, any advice would be appreciated!

    Cheers

  • #2
    No worries tuning your Polo.

    I always advise getting all the hardware first and then tune for best effect.

    You get more of a whistle off the turbo once the ECU has been flashed.

    There was just a big Polo dyno day in QLD, lots of information for you in there.

    Gavin


    Originally posted by arcenite View Post
    Hey guys!

    I just got my Polo GTI today! Can't wait to mod it, but I'm unsure whether should I tune first or should I replace the other parts first such as suspensions/cold air intake etc. As far as budget goes, I doubt I'll be able to purchase everything at one go. I've scoured the forums for a bit and I noticed that some said to tune first, and others, later.

    I would probably have enough to get a tune, cold air intake & filter, DV and probably a short shifter. What sort of mod would make the sound of the turbo more distinct? A new exhaust?

    Sorry if it sounds really stupid but this is my first time at modding a car, any advice would be appreciated!

    Cheers
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    • #3
      Cool! I was just worried that the stock parts on the car wouldn't be able to take the added power from the tune since it's pretty old. :s

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      • #4
        Some elements might not perform 100%, you may not hold peak boost as the stock diverter valve is known to fail, but it may be fine. Worth considering an upgrade to this, ensuring your spark plugs are reasonably new (last 40,000 kms) and you can always benefit from checking your boost pipe clamps are tight.

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        • #5
          70k is brand new! I've just had my car tuned today at 123K - these engines are bulletproof and as long you maintain the car properly it is unlikely you'll have any problems. hahaha 70k, man that's only just wearing in!
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          • #6
            Good to know! I'll definitely get those boost pipe clamps/spark plugs checked when I send it in for service. From experience do you guys just buy the parts and fit them yourselves? Would it be possible to get someone to do it without getting peeved off because I imported the parts? Any recommendations would be appreciated .

            I was reading up on DV's and I understand they're pretty much like BOV's, from my research, it appears that the APR DV's do not produce much sound. Does anyone know of any that are able to produce slightly more sound without going overboard? I might just get the APR ones at the end of the day though if it's too much of a hassle because I don't have a garage nor the experience to DIY .

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            • #7
              Diverter valves do just that, they divert the excessive boost from when you close the throttle back into the intake stream instead of into atmosphere like a blow-off valve. The only benefit of a blow off valve over a diverter valve? The ricer noise effect
              Diverter valves also vent back into the intake stream due to emissions regulations because your intake has the breathers for the crank case etc, these gases are not allowed to vent back into the atmosphere. Diverter valves can also negligibly increase performance over blow-off valves due to pre-charged air already in the intake so the turbo theoretically doesn't need to work quite as hard to generate boost, a blow-off valve removes all boost.
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              • #8
                An APR diverter with a tune is plenty loud. Load the engine up and change gear and it sounds like I've got a full vent to atmosphere sometimes. I do it to stir the ricers If you want it any louder fit an open air pod filter.

                I'll have an APR R1 diverter for sale soon..
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                136.09kW and 305.28Nm torques, Dynapack Hub Dyno

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gavs View Post
                  Diverter valves can also negligibly increase performance over blow-off valves due to pre-charged air already in the intake so the turbo theoretically doesn't need to work quite as hard to generate boost, a blow-off valve removes all boost.
                  Wouldn't that make a BOV a real world performance reduction over the DV since throttle response would be worse on the upshift?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by nightphotographer View Post
                    70k is brand new! I've just had my car tuned today at 123K - these engines are bulletproof and as long you maintain the car properly it is unlikely you'll have any problems. hahaha 70k, man that's only just wearing in!
                    Got my Polo done with an APR Stage 1 + tune at around 80,000 KM

                    Its now getting to 165,000km with no problems at all (touch wood )

                    So no problems at 70,000 odd Km. As NP said these engines are bullet proof
                    06 VW 9N3 Polo GTI - Reflex Silver Leather/OEM Colour coded S/guard/OEM Lower Honeycombe Grille/NSP Boost Gauge/APR Stage 1+,Dogbone & DP/K&N filter/Forge s/shift,DV008 & Strut brace/PD 160/Samco camo TIP/Whitline RSB/FK AK's/17 x 8 Oettiger RE's/Alpine Head Unit & Sony Amp. OEM+FTW

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                    • #11
                      Looks like going for the DV would be a better choice . Besides it'll probably save me from having to explain to my parents what the sound from the BOV is . Not worth getting an hour lecture over a BOV I suppose xD.

                      Man those Polos can take a beating can't they! Glad to know they're really reliable, at least I know I can use it for a loooong time . Oh and has anyone fit the dogbone mount? I realised that it's either a hit or miss when it comes to those upgrades, risking $120 for install+mount got me thinking...

                      Tough luck for me today... =/ found out that the Polo has been written off and was damaged by the flood in NSW. Thank goodness I can get my money back. Ugh... I can't wait to get the Polo, I've been looking at upgrades all week and no Polo! Time to stalk carsales again

                      edit: Oh and regarding pod filters, I read somewhere that it could reduce the performance of the turbo. Might just settle for a DV instead since it's supposed to be relatively loud enough after the tune. Haven't heard it yet but thanks for the pod recommendation though!
                      Last edited by arcenite; 12-09-2012, 02:43 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Sux about the car. But it's better that you find out now.

                        There are plenty of thread in this Forum about almost every mod you can do to the car, and they have been tried and tested.

                        The Dog Bone Bush can be picked up for about $50 on eBay, and takes about 20min to fit. The best easy mod I can recommend are Tune, DV (APR DV/Forge 007 or 00, Forge TIP, SEAT PD160 intake and Coilovers.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by spraycanmansam View Post
                          An APR diverter with a tune is plenty loud. Load the engine up and change gear and it sounds like I've got a full vent to atmosphere sometimes. I do it to stir the ricers If you want it any louder fit an open air pod filter.

                          I'll have an APR R1 diverter for sale soon..
                          What are your intake mods? I also got APR tune and APR R1 DV, I can't really hear it unless i listen really carefully... and I got PD160 and K&N panel as well...

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                          • #14
                            My Forge 007 DV with the 17-21lb spring last of a distinctive 'tweet' when I back off or change gears.
                            "If can't get behind your troops, feel free to stand in front of them..."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bakersdelight View Post
                              What are your intake mods? I also got APR tune and APR R1 DV, I can't really hear it unless i listen really carefully... and I got PD160 and K&N panel as well...
                              It's quiet when I'm pootling around and noisy when I give it the boot.
                              Give it WOT in 2nd at around 30-40km for a few secs until the turbo just starts to spool and then back off and you'll see what I mean..
                              Polo GTI MY2008
                              Build Thread
                              136.09kW and 305.28Nm torques, Dynapack Hub Dyno

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