APR for polo gti

[Tim]

Are the guys with switchable tune actually switching it? Im not 100% certain that id use that. But then im a lazy bugger

[DaveMack]

I'm not going to pick one software over the other here. All I'll say is that there is a player in the market (not one of the major 4 - APR, Revo, Oettinger or Giac - who's product is rubbish - I initially had it on my Polo) PM me and I'll tell you which one to avoid at all costs.

Dave

[mitch_gti]

APR flash here

Guy was very helpfull and gave me lots of advice and also let me know who the closest person was who could do the APR flash.'

Since i got the flash i have had a permanent smile on my face and to be honest i am yet to turn the software off.

Power setting 24/7

[Timbo]

Are the guys with switchable tune actually switching it?

I do -- ocassionally -- don't like to scare the strife when she has it for the day -- and I certainly don't want pimply-faced valet parkers or dealer apprentices feeling the powa

[DaveMack]

APR flash here

Guy was very helpfull and gave me lots of advice and also let me know who the closest person was who could do the APR flash.'

Since i got the flash i have had a permanent smile on my face and to be honest i am yet to turn the software off.

Power setting 24/7

I'm with you on this one, Mitch. Never turn mine off unless it's going in for service or the wife dings it and needs panelbeating. ()

Dave

[gtimk5]

I dont bother switching mine at all.
I couldnt stand going back to standard!!!
For those who have to return the vehicle for warrantee work, it is a good thing to have.
Andrew

[Funkdancer]

Kay, please get back on topic here - no better way to close a thread than getting personal.
Edit: Said subthread has been cleaned up. Bofh.

[dodgeGTI]

Get back to the point fellas

back to the point of the thread guys.... the kid was asking why a piece of software is so expensive?

Answer: The R&D that goes into it, and the performance that is gained with its application.

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[Tim]

ok
lets compare APR with GIAC

Do both companies do lots of research and development with local ECUs?

YES

Are both tunes switchable?

YES

Do both have similar power outputs?

YES

Do both have good product support?

YES



They both look like apples to me.

APR does spend a lot more on marketing in australia though.

Again I havent decided which way im going to go. Clearly both have very satisfied customers in australia. I just dont think the decision should be that simple.

[Funkdancer]

no probs Tim, the aim was to provoke you into a response and you delivered, all good Now we know what you really think about this stuff.

..and I just got deleted left right and centre by admin lol [...]

The "GT3 vs Tim subthread" is what got deleted as it wasn't adding much to the topic. Nothing wrong with some passion, it's good for the forums and makes things interesting - just watch it a bit when getting personal.

My own take is that it seems a bit like choosing between a Honda, VW and Mazda car in a certain price segment; quality is great on either, so it comes down to personal preference and other factors such as closeness to dealer/support.

I am very happy with my APR mod; had some issues with the switching between programs not occurring properly so now just mainly leave it in performance mode. No questions were asked when getting my aircon fixed under warranty.

If I were to mess up the drive train due to my own hard driving [provided it really was this] and it wouldn't have happened in stock then I think I'd cop it myself; it'd not be fair to claim it - just the same as I wouldn't try to claim my Q6600 quad core Intel CPU which I've clocked to 3.8ghz on water from 2.4 stock.

[FL00DY]

Whats your location. If your in Melbourne I'll take you for a spin and then you'll understand my. And you can even suck more power out of the polo because it has the K03S (mk4 is K03).

Since when does the polo GTI have a KO3 Sport? Or did I miss that memo?

Do both allocate significant resources to Polo GTI R&D?

NO

..and I just got deleted left right and centre by admin lol ..maybe we should post a poll "should GT3 be booted off the forum for being a smart ar*e". I'm sure admin wouldn't object

Are you the accountant for any of the Chip guys? Do you know how much money the chip guys pour into R&D in the US or UK? You sound like maybe you do so I'd love to see the figures to the cent, it sounds like you have them. Please don't delete, I feel the above point needs to be made.

I'm sure the OP has an idea now as to why the chip guys charge what they charge. As has already been said, we choose to drive Volkswagens so clearly price wont always be a deciding factor, $30K for a car the same size as a Getz we all used our hearts to make this buying decision

The two deciding factors for me (If I could ever be bothered chipping my car), is location to where I work/live and how easy to get along with the dealer. So for me, APR in Sydney is located in Mona Vale and I live in Narellan, South west Sydney. GIAC is located in Girraween I work at Parramatta, 10 minutes away. Decision made. Had I lived or worked 10 or so minutes from Derek you bet your I'd be buying APR. To me that's as simple as the decision needs to be.

[mitch_gti]

Floody,

I can understand and appreciate the point you are making.
You do have to consider customer service though....

European Autotech have their own customer greeting specialist !!!!!


It's about 25cm tall, has four legs, two ears and is very hairy.
Cant remember its name though But he/she almost fell over because it was wagging its tail soo hard it lost its balance !

Surely this would tip the scales when deciding which re-flash to get.

[dodgeGTI]

Since when does the polo GTI have a KO3 Sport? Or did I miss that memo?

Are you the accountant for any of the Chip guys? Do you know how much money the chip guys pour into R&D in the US or UK? You sound like maybe you do so I'd love to see the figures to the cent, it sounds like you have them. Please don't delete, I feel the above point needs to be made.

Pull up Fl00dy, this is the friendly forum remember. n:

[gtimk5]

And this thread needs to be locked now if you guys cant settle down and get back on the subject!

[SoVeReIgN]

Since when does the polo GTI have a KO3 Sport? Or did I miss that memo?

You missed the memo - It does have a Ko3sport.

Pull up Fl00dy, this is the friendly forum remember. n:

I think he's making a very fair point.