Rear camber question

[VWindahouse]

Wondering if anyone else had come across this?

After I got the new coilovers fitted I noticed pretty bad tyre wear on the inside of both rear tyres for the first time.

I had the rear lowered pretty far with guard on tyre. I was told that dropping it so far would naturally cause more camber and that's why the insides of the rear tyres have scrubbed out.

Thoughs??

[kaanage]

Yep, you need camber shims to correct this.

VWVortex.com - DIY: Rear Camber Shims

You can make 4 U shaped individual shims from different thickness of metal sheet to avoid having to remove the hub

[VWindahouse]

Thanks mate! What brand shims would you recommend?

[kaanage]

No idea! I've seen Eibach ones mentioned. http://www.rtecshop.com/shop/suspens...mk4-94-07.html

My mechanic was going to do the homemade shimming with mine except it all measured Ok on the wheel aligner.

[Jmac]

No idea! I've seen Eibach ones mentioned.

My mechanic was going to do the homemade shimming with mine except it all measured Ok on the wheel aligner.

Yep a natural effect when you drop the car, in natural state they can tend to scallop as does most of the brand, with tyre rotations minimising this well extended the wear period really. Depends on what you want the car to do to mate, you are doing more track work now, you still want a bit of negative camber for handling and of course keep the rear toe right too, then after the rear is adjusted it naturally knocks all the front out so itll all need adjusted too. Nice to get tyre wear down though.
Cheers
Jmac

[VWindahouse]

Thanks Jimmy! Will do mate.

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.

We're talking about a rear beam axle, are we not.

[Jmac]

Hoyhoy.

We're talking about a rear beam axle, are we not.

Yeah totally mate, which is normally an non adjustable unit, thats pretty much why you have to shim it. The Red Polo is eating the inside with too much negative. have you touched your beam eddy? i know you have put a lot into the front.
Cheers
Jmac

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.

I have done a few things to the rear, which helped on the track >
Rear strut brace.
Rear sway bar.
Rear toe out shims.

It seems strange that Anthony is wearing the inside on the rears, I never had that problem, the main problem was on the track scrubbing in the opposite direction until the shims went in.
The standard toe in on the rear is huge.

[kaanage]

He may have lowered his car more than you have, Eddy. Normal cars tuned for track performance often sit surprisingly high to the streeter/JDM type crowd.

[Jmac]

Hoyhoy.

I have done a few things to the rear, which helped on the track >
Rear strut brace.
Rear sway bar.
Rear toe out shims.

It seems strange that Anthony is wearing the inside on the rears, I never had that problem, the main problem was on the track scrubbing in the opposite direction until the shims went in.
The standard toe in on the rear is huge.

Very true about the toe Eddy, i agree, anthony i reckon what you need to do is get it on the gauges and get a picture of where all the angles are at, remember you have toe shims already. Then take it from there.
cheers
Jmac

[nightphotographer]

Hey guys - just digging this up from the past - erm I'm thinking long term here, but I want some camber on show wheels I'm going to rock next year. They're 8.5" wide on the back (7.5 fronts) and ET26 so I reckon they'll poke and I want to get them under the guards. So If I buy some Eibach Camber shims - how many sets do I need and what do I do with them lol? No idea about any of this stuff. Also can I just put them in for a show and take them off again without getting re-alligned? Don't care about allignment for a weekend, but for anything else I do

[kaanage]

You could just loosen off the hub mounts and put thick or multiple washers between the hub and the mount for the lower studs.
Alignment will be crap since the lower studs aren't parallel to the ground but you'll get the "tuck" you're after.

After removing them, alignment should be as before.