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  • #16
    Does that mean we don't have to worry too much about an increase in wheel diameter when we get bigger rims?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by ACTGTI View Post
      Hate to be pedantic, but my Peugeot 206 GTi180's speedo was 100% accurate at all speeds! So, not all manufacturers provide inaccurate speedos. This was apparently done by measuring speed at each wheel through the ABS sensors, then taking the average of all 4 wheels.
      That's good stuff. However, how would it know about tyre inflation? Some system to correct for this?

      The ECU of the Accord actually got it just about 100% correct at the current 36 PSIs. However if filled with less air, the ECU itself would be off.

      In the Polo the ECU itself is 4% off at 36PSIs, which would probably be slightly improved by running a softer configuration. Then there's another few % between the ECU and the speedo.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Funkdancer View Post
        Another thing is that the odo will be displaying an over inflated figure, which will affect resales price.
        i have read posts on new beetle forums from the states saying that this is not the case... the odometer is actually a true reading whereas the speedo reading is altered.

        i have not tested this theory and i dont know how they came up with this idea either.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by blutopless2 View Post
          i have read posts on new beetle forums from the states saying that this is not the case... the odometer is actually a true reading whereas the speedo reading is altered.

          i have not tested this theory and i dont know how they came up with this idea either.
          It'd appear to me that the ECU data is what's going to the odo. The ECU is still off by about 4% (showing too high speed). However the ECU reading is not as bad as the actual speedo.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Funkdancer View Post
            That's good stuff. However, how would it know about tyre inflation? Some system to correct for this?

            The ECU of the Accord actually got it just about 100% correct at the current 36 PSIs. However if filled with less air, the ECU itself would be off.

            In the Polo the ECU itself is 4% off at 36PSIs, which would probably be slightly improved by running a softer configuration. Then there's another few % between the ECU and the speedo.
            Don't know how it corrected for tyre inflation, but it was spot on for both 36 PSI and for 41 PSI anyway, I know that.

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            • #21
              Well, hang on a minute. It's not just the speedo that's out, it's also the odo. Mine typically reads about 6-7% over on those 5k test strips. GPS confirms this for speed

              As to something being "100% accurate", I wonder how that can be given the circumference of tyres changes with wear. Does the Pug have some inbuilt correction?

              The ADR is that the speedo must read within 10% of the indicated speed, and any error should be "optimistic"; there is a risk of being defected if you make a wheel/tyre change which breaches this. Not much room to move with the Polo

              A bigger problem with the Polo is just reading the bloody speedo, especially when it decides to change from 10k to 20k increments. Whose idea was that? (Step forward so we send you the speeding fines )
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              • #22
                Ok just rang Volkswagen Australia,
                They sate that its to allow for tyre wear and so that your always within the limit no matter how worn ur tyres are and there is no chance of readin the other way around.
                Also asked about that speedo why it jumps 20kms an hour this is due to having a more acurate speed reading at low speend wher high speed autobarns dont matter so much.

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                • #23
                  A friend of mine has a Polo GTI, his GPS confirms that the speedometer is out by around 9%. When he queried the VW dealership he bought from, they said that it was due to some court case in the USA, I think he was trying to say that they make the reading higher than you're actually going so VW can't be sued for people's fines/accidents if by chance the speedo was displaying under their actual speed. Sounds pretty naff to me.

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                  • #24
                    Thanks PoloGTI, you just confirmed to me that VWA have no clue whatseover when it comes to certain aspects of their product design. ;0

                    Sorry about my venting this another (final!?) time; I guess I'm spoiled by the speedo in my Euro, but whilst driving the pug I just can't properly use its speedo for the reasons of 1) it being 1/4 of a "proper" size, and 2) it being so much off, and 3) the scale changing on top of this - I mean, c'mon, from a normal driving position (I'm 6'3") there's about 1.5 nanometers of difference between the 80 and 90 positions!

                    Hopefully they'll improve readability in future models, until then they deserve to cop some manure until they decide to change.

                    From a safety aspect the less time you spend looking at the speedo the better; I think Honda got it right in their new Civic Type R, it being a floating numeric display above the steering wheel. Bravo.

                    Whilst you may now think I'm a huge Honda fan, I was actually looking at buying their Civic Hybrid as my #2 car but decided not to as it didn't have ESP whilst the overseas version does (!!!) - the most important safety invention since the seatbelt (*). Suzuki Swift Sport was next to go for the exact same reason (why oh why strip one of the most important features), and then I came across the Polo GTI (where ESP is only avail on the top of the range model...).

                    Cheers,
                    Funky

                    *) read latest Wheels anyone? Some chilling stats; no wonder why the US are making it mandatory next year - and it only adds $180 or so to an 4 channel ABS equipped vehicle, it's completely wrong on a major scale that it's not mandatory already down here.
                    Last edited by Funkdancer; 07-08-2007, 04:27 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Actually, according to GPS, the strife's car, which is a Honda Accord Euro, also has a fairly consistent 5% error. Funk, you must have one of the "good" ones
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Timbo View Post
                        Actually, according to GPS, the strife's car, which is a Honda Accord Euro, also has a fairly consistent 5% error. Funk, you must have one of the "good" ones
                        Ah interesting However note that I was actually referring to the speed reported by the ECU to my Scangauge2. The actual speedo needle is about 3% off. However with the way much clearer speedo display this is a lot easier to work with.

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                        • #27
                          Never got the ticket...

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                          • #28
                            I was doing a 110 down the eastern fwy according to the speedo when out popped a police bike from behind me, instictively i took my foot off the accelerator. Policeman on the bike went by, giving me a look, and drove on. So i guess 110 on the speedo is ~100 in reality?
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                            • #29
                              I find 110km/h is 100km/h and I've been followed by cops on the freeway doing 110km/h indicated.

                              I've gone through fixed speed cameras at 107km/h indicated and haven't received anything in the mail.
                              Last edited by Ben_GTI; 29-08-2007, 06:49 PM. Reason: speeeling
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                              • #30
                                In most car in Aust, the speedo is usually like 2 or 3 kms less then what your actually travellin
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