Dyno results after Full Non-Res Milltek, Forge FMIC and Forge diverter valve fitted!!

[AusScare]

Sounds to me that you are the one with the backwards modding idea mate

first hardware, after that, software,
specially when you are going to get a custom remap.

The remaps here aren't custom though are they? Are they preset or do they change depending on mods?

[Buller_Scott]

i've heard that revo's are preset, and that others work off your stock map, tweaking the different parameters.

i thought that if you wanted a custom tune, it would have to actually be custom, as in someone comes around to your place and does a rolling road tune, or you take it to someone like evolve technik and get dyno tuned?

as far as i can gather, anything whereby you get maps, however powerful they are, without the mapping process taking place whilst the wheels are rolling, is classified as an ''off the shelf'' tune?

[robihe]

i've heard that revo's are preset, and that others work off your stock map, tweaking the different parameters.

i thought that if you wanted a custom tune, it would have to actually be custom, as in someone comes around to your place and does a rolling road tune, or you take it to someone like evolve technik and get dyno tuned?

as far as i can gather, anything whereby you get maps, however powerful they are, without the mapping process taking place whilst the wheels are rolling, is classified as an ''off the shelf'' tune?

thats exactly where im getting my phase 2 tune done, by the evolve technik guys. Which required them install the forge kit + b.o.v and exhaust. Did a dyno run once all the mods were fitted, and sent the results to Germany to develop a custom tune for the mods. Got a response over night with 3 different tunes. Now going in tomorrow to do some tests and runs and download the software that is best suited.

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Sounds to me that you are the one with the backwards modding idea mate

first hardware, after that, software,
specially when you are going to get a custom remap.

If it's a custom remap, sure... but how many of us actually run custom remaps? Isn't CustomCode the only brand that allows any significant adjustability?

I know most people here are running the standard APR/GIAC/REVO setup, which doesn't receive any benefit from doing it pre or post mods.

[insanekiwi]

REVO comes in as off-the shelf item, then you can do rolling dyno - to change 1) fueling 2) timing 3) and boost. Setting start from 0(stock) to 9 (maximal performance either, race fuel, advanced timing, or higher boost). So reasonable tweaking can be done. i am on Boost 8, Timing 7, and Fueling 8. Fueling can be also adapted by the ECU itself.

[jesum]

Put your stock intercooler back on - if you have lost ~ 4 psi of boost (as many other have) then on a stock car (no upped boost with software) then you are lucky to get those gains!

stupid question, guy - does this mean it's possible to raise the boost pressure safely after installing the FMIC to regain some power?

[noone]

Not stupid.

Increcing the boost (as per a chip / ECU flash) does this along with some other bits.

There is only so much power that can be made efficiently from the stock turbo, once you go beyond that you have issues with tubro lifespan and heat. Generally speaking, all the tunes get roughly the same boost from the tune.

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stupid question, guy - does this mean it's possible to raise the boost pressure safely after installing the FMIC to regain some power?

That's where the tune comes in and raises timing, boost and fueling for you.

You can't do this for example (due to heat problems from running a turbo out of its efficiency range) - Chipped car running 20psi, throw an intercooler on and that figure drops to 16psi at the plennum. As a result, change the boost to 24psi, resulting in 20psi at the plennum.

[jesum]

thanks for the replies, folks. i am already running APR v2 + forge FMIC so i was wondering if the standard tune can be modified slightly to take into account the loss in boost pressure.

and, my apologies for hijacking the discussion thread.

[noone]

The APR tunes are already designed to get max power vs reliability out of the turbo / engine.

You could certainly go an aftermarket tune, but then you'd be pushing the components harder to compensate for a FMIC design issue.

I'm in the same boat, have a vague idea to get a better cooler made up, but doubt it will happen...

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thanks for the replies, folks. i am already running APR v2 + forge FMIC so i was wondering if the standard tune can be modified slightly to take into account the loss in boost pressure.

and, my apologies for hijacking the discussion thread.

Read my post immediately before yours, no it can't. Adding more boost isn't a solution to intercooler pressure drop.

[robihe]

***just an update, got a cal from the evolve technik team and told me the car produced an extra 30-40 kw/atw after the remap. so im pretty
happy with the result. will post up graph of the final dyno run once i get a copy. =]]

[Guy_H]

Hey Jesum, not a stupid question at all! - the problem is with your stage 1 tune, you are already running the correct boost level for the turbo size (efficiency & turbo life).

The problem with the "brand X" intercoolers is they are so bad, its like sticking a ping pong ball in your mouth & taping shut one nostril - suck or blow all you like, you still can't breathe.

The engineers we sent them to for testing thought they were a joke (honestly), they are so much worse than stock.