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  • Polo Power steering problem!!!

    Holy hell, recently the coolant/cooling light went on and I checked the reserviour tank it was still over the minimum level so I topped it up a little anyways and the light hasn't gone on since (and I only topped it up by a measly 30 or so mls). Now a week later, this morning the power steering light lit up and all of a sudden the steering went all stiff whilst I was parking the car. So damn lucky it happened when the car was REALLY slow and not when I was still on the friggin freeway!!! The car only recently had its 45k service. Don't they check and top up levels? Why is my car doing this all of a sudden? There's no evidence of any leaking of fluids on my driveway either. Any similar experiences or clues anyone?

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    Check the fluid level (which can be a pain) and if the fluid looks good, maybe take it to a mechanic/auto elec that can scan the computer and see what fault it is showing?
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    • #3
      How is the steering now?

      Did you notice your revs drop when you were parking (like nearly stall)?

      No issues here, but makes me want to check my fluid...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by noone View Post
        How is the steering now?

        Did you notice your revs drop when you were parking (like nearly stall)?

        No issues here, but makes me want to check my fluid...
        Steering was fine after I turned the car off and then on again and the light hasn't come back on today. Last night was a scare though. I called the local VW service dept and they didn't want to look at it today and asked me to book it in next week (despite the fact that I told him I drive the car back and forth between bendigo and melbourne on a regular basis).

        Revs didn't drop when parking whilst the power steering failed but sometimes while driving or sitting there idling and operating the stereo or turning on headlights, the car seems to dip in power and nearly stall or the stereo would turn itself off an then on again.

        Have no clue what's wrong with it. It was fine before I went on holiday and then the moment I came back after 2 and a bit weeks all the problems started. Is it the battery? Car was built supposedly in late 2007 so assuming it might be the battery's age?

        Haven't had a chance to really search where the power steering fluid etc is located as I was dead tired after work.

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        • #5
          Just my 2 cents: at the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious, the power steering pump is electrical and not driven off the engine by an ancillary drive belt. So the fault may not have anything to do with fluid levels but rather, an electrical fault on the pump itself (it's known that the power steering has 3 assistance settings from GTI-heavyish, normal, and super-light, which means there must be some pretty complex electronics involved, hence more chance for things to go wrong...?) So there shouldn't be any discernable drop in revs even if the power steering is under a higher load

          As far as I know, conventional (belt-driven) power steering cars don't get a warning light on the dash anyway because there's nothing electrical to go wrong
          Last edited by Roodosutaa; 20-02-2010, 11:26 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Roodosutaa View Post
            Just my 2 cents: at the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious, the power steering pump is electrical and not driven off the engine by an ancillary drive belt. So the fault may not have anything to do with fluid levels but rather, an electrical fault on the pump itself (it's known that the power steering has 3 assistance settings from GTI-heavyish, normal, and super-light, which means there must be some pretty complex electronics involved, hence more chance for things to go wrong...?) So there shouldn't be any discernable drop in revs even if the power steering is under a higher load

            As far as I know, conventional (belt-driven) power steering cars don't get a warning light on the dash anyway because there's nothing electrical to go wrong
            Thanks for your input mate as I'm no mechanic by profession but I do know that its a hydro electric power steering system and coupled with all the faults that have been happening suddenly out of the blue, I do suspect an electrical problem somewhere hence my questioning of the possibility of it being the battery etc etc etc...hope to and book it in to get it checked out and will let you guys know of the outcome.

            Any suggestions or experiences from anyone are welcome and thanks in advance for your input and enlightenment of my ignorance on this subject matter

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            • #7
              Hey Mate

              Sorry to hear you are having problems with your car.

              I have had more than my fair share of problems with my polo.

              I am no mechanic but it sounds like you are experiencing something similar to one of my problems about 12 months ago. I took mine to the dealership. To cut a long story short, I was told it was in relation to a faulty earth.

              I hope this helps you sort out your problems.
              Last edited by 28ART; 21-02-2010, 07:22 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Roodosutaa View Post
                Just my 2 cents: at the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious, the power steering pump is electrical and not driven off the engine by an ancillary drive belt. So the fault may not have anything to do with fluid levels but rather, an electrical fault on the pump itself (it's known that the power steering has 3 assistance settings from GTI-heavyish, normal, and super-light, which means there must be some pretty complex electronics involved, hence more chance for things to go wrong...?) So there shouldn't be any discernable drop in revs even if the power steering is under a higher load

                As far as I know, conventional (belt-driven) power steering cars don't get a warning light on the dash anyway because there's nothing electrical to go wrong
                Hey captian obvious, the steering is driven with an electrical pump which is feeding the rack with hydraulic fluid form a pretty large reservoir behind the inner guard left front. Signals are taken from the steering angle sensor and steering wheel speed, voltage and vehicle RPMs are read. So to me it sound like a failing pump/ecu, you will need to go for a drive , after checking fluid level of course, and if its low there is a drama anyway, this can be logged and you can check its not losing voltage on the drive.
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                • #9
                  Hey GTI_Dave...

                  I've had similar problems. Often when maneouvering in and out of my tricky garage, if i turn the wheel to quickly the radio will turn off and restart. Sometimes the power steering light, ABS light and traction control light all come on. I have been turning the engine off and then restarting and everything goes back to normal. I'll get my mechanic to check the steering system when i get i serviced soon.

                  I have also had the temp light flashing at me, but the coolant levels are fine, and i've only ever had this happen 15secs after turning the car on, so it's not overheating. Genrally I turn the car off, and then back on and it goes away. Sometimes it happens again straight away, but it's never occured three times in a row.

                  Does anyone know if these errors are stored in the ECU and can be picked up when they do a diagnostic test at next service?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FLiP View Post
                    Hey GTI_Dave...

                    I've had similar problems. Often when maneouvering in and out of my tricky garage, if i turn the wheel to quickly the radio will turn off and restart. Sometimes the power steering light, ABS light and traction control light all come on. I have been turning the engine off and then restarting and everything goes back to normal. I'll get my mechanic to check the steering system when i get i serviced soon.

                    I have also had the temp light flashing at me, but the coolant levels are fine, and i've only ever had this happen 15secs after turning the car on, so it's not overheating. Genrally I turn the car off, and then back on and it goes away. Sometimes it happens again straight away, but it's never occured three times in a row.

                    Does anyone know if these errors are stored in the ECU and can be picked up when they do a diagnostic test at next service?
                    Hi FLiP, those are exactly the problems I've been having!!! Have you by any chance got an after market stereo system installed? I've changed my stereo system 8 months ago but don't think its related to it otherwise I would have had this problem since then.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gti Dave View Post
                      Hi FLiP, those are exactly the problems I've been having!!! Have you by any chance got an after market stereo system installed? I've changed my stereo system 8 months ago but don't think its related to it otherwise I would have had this problem since then.
                      You might find that one the wiring to your head unit/amps etc. may not be grounded properly.

                      Might be worth a check.
                      Previous Rides: Polo GTI, Mx5 10AE, MY05 WRX WRP10, Renault Sport Clio 172
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                      • #12
                        I would be thinking something to do with the electricals for the power steering or the alternator. Just guesses tho.

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                        • #13
                          Hi guys & gals, I took my 07polo gti in for a 15k service and the dealer did a warranty on my battery as it had issues, I did not know that I had any issues, or to think I had a bad battery. I would look at the battery first and then move onto other issues, as long as the fluid was at the right level. Good luck on getting this sorted.

                          Cheers

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                          • #14
                            Cheers for that mate. I'll be getting it checked shortly. Crossing my fingers and hoping its just the battery getting old. Mine was built in 07 but didn't get it til mid to late 08.

                            Thanks for everyone's opinions. Recently the problems have been coming on more often so I better get it looked at and today I was stuck driving in Bendigo CBD for a few blocks without powersteering until I stopped at a set of lights and restarted the car and back to normal again (at least until next time).

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                            • #15
                              Sounds like a bad earth connection somewhere.

                              I'd start checking all earth connections and the termination box ontop of the battery.
                              2006 VW Polo Classic 1.9TDi - Currrent
                              1994 VW MkIII Jetta VR6 Exec - Sold

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