Forge Short Shift for 5speed gearbox

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Have to say, the Pog has one of the best shifts I've driven for a cable operated FWD car (after the DC2 Integra Type R) - and that's saying something considering I came from an MX-5

While I agree the Polo shifts well (well, after the dog bone insert is done), I must completely disagree with the Mx5 shift. Even after a full rebuild, all new synchros, redline oil, new Exedy ceramic clutch and lightened flywheel... my 6spd in my old Mx5 10AE was fussy and annoying to shift (short shifter was fitted to it too)

Back to the topic, do you really need a short shifter for the polo? There are already plenty of well documented cases of shift issues in 2nd/3rd in the Polo box when shifting fast. I'm all for maximum performance, but I don't think the risk of damaging the already mediocre synchros is worth the cost and wank factor of the short shift.

[mikepologti]

Not for AGU motor. That's ours isn't it?

nope , ours is bjx

[RoSonic]

@JCM308: Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing with you... I've only quoted what was stated in the specs - "Polo 2001 on".

[Roodosutaa]

While I agree the Polo shifts well (well, after the dog bone insert is done), I must completely disagree with the Mx5 shift. Even after a full rebuild, all new synchros, redline oil, new Exedy ceramic clutch and lightened flywheel... my 6spd in my old Mx5 10AE was fussy and annoying to shift (short shifter was fitted to it too)

Back to the topic, do you really need a short shifter for the polo? There are already plenty of well documented cases of shift issues in 2nd/3rd in the Polo box when shifting fast. I'm all for maximum performance, but I don't think the risk of damaging the already mediocre synchros is worth the cost and wank factor of the short shift.

You had a 10AE? Believe it or not so did I!

Yes the general consensus amongst 5ers is that Aisin 6spd isn't as sweet as the standard Mazda 5spd box used in the NA/NB8A, and having tried an older NA I'd have to agree you do get the famous snick-snick rifle bolt action, mine didn't have the problems yours had, guess maybe it's a one-off (either yours or mine). It still ranks above the Pog for the sense of directness and obviously the travel was a fair bit shorter. Never missed a shift with it (but then I never did with the Polo either except that time getting an awful crunch slamming it from 1st to 2nd, been babying it ever since, anyway I digress...)

Had a go an SP once which had a short-shifter fitted (only played with the gears, was given a lift in it), it felt much like the S2000's - a bit stiff but definitely flick-switch short. Not sure if it's really necessary though as it was already short enough for the road so like you said maybe it's more for the wank factor.

[Smead]

My old proton satria GTI had a pretty awsome **** in it. Better than th polo,, but i dont mind the Polo anyway

[Smead]

That should read shift

[h100vw]

You could have edited that first post Smead.

Gavin

[PeterHBne]

Polo shift in my opinion is alright, but to compare it to an MX5 - are your crazy??? - I'm talking the original MX5 (late 80's early 90's) - they had one of the best gear shifts ever - fullstop. The Polo doesnt come close to these - cant talk of later MX5s

[Jmac]

This DEFINATELY will not work on the 9N3 Polo. The gearbox is completely different. This has been covered many times before!!!!!!!!

There is only 1 company that makes a short shift for the 9N3 and it costs nearly 300 Euro + freight.



That's because it's not for the GTI.

Not sure what box you guys are on about, the gti has an 02R which is VERY similar to the 02J and in fact shares a lot of the 02J parts. In fact the shift housing on the Polo Gti box is EXACTLY the same as the Golf (02J301231B) The difference with the box is the gearset casing is different with regards to mount holes, the front half of the box ( bellhousing etc ) is in fact the 02J which is identical to the Golf. Worked on both boxes.
To conclude 90% of the gearbox is 02J same as Golf.
Oh and almost forgot, wont let Gav off, Its a Myth that Scottish people are tight!!!!!
My 2c
Jmac

[JCM308]

I was refering to the shifter being completely different.

From my post last page where I copied my thread when looking at doing this:

jasn78
Volkswagen Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 998
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it wont work guys if it is for in the engine bay, the design of the linkage or whatever it is is in opposite directions, I bought a HPA one ages ago with this idea in mind but hey if u want to go for it just ignore me __________________

As you can see, Jasn78 has actually TRIED this before. He's not going on pure speculation. But hey, feel free to prove us wrong.

[Blitzen]

I was refering to the shifter being completely different.

From my post last page where I copied my thread when looking at doing this:

jasn78
Volkswagen Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 998
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it wont work guys if it is for in the engine bay, the design of the linkage or whatever it is is in opposite directions, I bought a HPA one ages ago with this idea in mind but hey if u want to go for it just ignore me __________________

As you can see, Jasn78 has actually TRIED this before. He's not going on pure speculation. But hey, feel free to prove us wrong.

Yes, but he tried the HPA one, and it didn't work, not the new Forge one.
If you buy it from a site that manufactured it, and it says it is suited to the vehicle, then it dosn't fit, you are entitled to a refund.

No biggy. I can't see how this thread went on for 3 pages.

[Jmac]

Thats fine mate, im merely making it clear that the gearboxes are in fact pretty much identical. That wasnt clear in the posting, gearboxes are totally different is what i read. Anyway all good. The shift mechanism is the same too, only the cable set up is different this maybe where the wheels have fell off.
Cheers
Jmac

[instigator]

issn't a quickshift to stressfull for the meganic?
and won't it be useless because the polo is not at his best in High RPM?

[mikepologti]

polo is fine in high revs when you have the right tune ,k04 and full exhaust.

[instigator]

polo is fine in high revs when you have the right tune ,k04 and full exhaust.

sure, but not with the stock turbo i mean.
but like you say, it will be handy when you have K04 or somthing bigger.