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Hi guys,
I know there were many owners with lots of recent upgrades from DMF to single mass flywheel recently. My car has done 41000km. I had the car since 19000km. REVOed since I got it. 2006 Feb registered model, so I believe this was produced in end of 2005. My car had no recalls for the gearbox.
Anyway, to cut the story short, like a lot of people I am not most happy with the gearbox. It shifts well, does its job. I never had crunching issues at any revs.
However, it's not as 'quiet' or 'refined' as other cars I've driven. Even MGF VVC 97 model or Suzuki Swift had quieter gearboxes.
Now, I am thinking with the noises that I have, it maybe dual mass flywheel is causing the noise for mine.
Mine makes slightly whiney noise in 1st gear / 2nd gear revs below 2000rpm when crawling around car parks, or in traffic only when slowing down. For example decelerating when taking foot off the throttle. This whine disappears with clutch pressed in. Once accelerating again this noise diappears.
Also note similar noise at 4th gear, below 2000rpm to 1500rpm (60km-50km) with very light throttle or just rolling with no throttle input. (and faint almost dead quiet whine in 5th gear, but you are going at speeds and difficult to hear it)
I have changed gearbox oils many times at 5000km each interval from Redline MTL (as per Jmac's recommendation) / new synthetic oil from VW / etc. No change in the characteristics of noise.
The noise has been constant, and I don't think it's getting worse.
If I am accelerating or driving normally - I do not notice this. However with speed limit of 50km/h, 4th gear is often used to cruise, and the little whine can be annoying, as soon as I put the foot down this disappears, and also when I reach and past 60km/h, meaning the rpm is above 2000rpm. I tried 5th gear and it doesn't happen. I do need to use the throttle a bit more though to compensate.
This has been looked by 3 different dealers -> no codes, engine oils look very clean, it's all normal. They said it's all within tolerance.
Also, I also get some drivetrain 'slack' as dealer called it, when I am accelerating and suddenly take the foot of the accelerator, then accelerate again, then I can make little noise 'slight chunk noise'. As if the chain is getting tighten, loosened and and tightened again. I just got told not to drive like that. I rarely hear the noise anyway if I drive normally.
I am wondering whether this could be due to flywheel in not the best condition... dual mass -> could it create this sort of noise?
My clutch is still good, and I have no plan to upgrade it yet. My next upgrade is likely 20lb kit from ECS, but if I don't need it, I would rather wait till the clutch starts slipping.
Can the flywheel actually get completely damaged and cause more damage?
My car for power wise has: down pipe 3", deleted resonator, REVO 7,6,6 setting (22 peak PSI), Forge 007p, Seat intake, regularly replaced factory air filter
. Made 127kw at wheels without forge / down pipe in summer. I am hoping it's around 140kw at wheels now. I've had 2 track days in the car. Enthusiastic enough to get the car in tripod position in tight corners many times.
I am now out of warranty, and getting paranoid... I think I like the car too much! (I've been known to swap cars very often... but I love this car)
Any opinions as to if my flywheel is at fault? thanks in advance.
I hope jmac also can answer this too.
I know there were many owners with lots of recent upgrades from DMF to single mass flywheel recently. My car has done 41000km. I had the car since 19000km. REVOed since I got it. 2006 Feb registered model, so I believe this was produced in end of 2005. My car had no recalls for the gearbox.
Anyway, to cut the story short, like a lot of people I am not most happy with the gearbox. It shifts well, does its job. I never had crunching issues at any revs.
However, it's not as 'quiet' or 'refined' as other cars I've driven. Even MGF VVC 97 model or Suzuki Swift had quieter gearboxes.
Now, I am thinking with the noises that I have, it maybe dual mass flywheel is causing the noise for mine.
Mine makes slightly whiney noise in 1st gear / 2nd gear revs below 2000rpm when crawling around car parks, or in traffic only when slowing down. For example decelerating when taking foot off the throttle. This whine disappears with clutch pressed in. Once accelerating again this noise diappears.
Also note similar noise at 4th gear, below 2000rpm to 1500rpm (60km-50km) with very light throttle or just rolling with no throttle input. (and faint almost dead quiet whine in 5th gear, but you are going at speeds and difficult to hear it)
I have changed gearbox oils many times at 5000km each interval from Redline MTL (as per Jmac's recommendation) / new synthetic oil from VW / etc. No change in the characteristics of noise.
The noise has been constant, and I don't think it's getting worse.
If I am accelerating or driving normally - I do not notice this. However with speed limit of 50km/h, 4th gear is often used to cruise, and the little whine can be annoying, as soon as I put the foot down this disappears, and also when I reach and past 60km/h, meaning the rpm is above 2000rpm. I tried 5th gear and it doesn't happen. I do need to use the throttle a bit more though to compensate.
This has been looked by 3 different dealers -> no codes, engine oils look very clean, it's all normal. They said it's all within tolerance.
Also, I also get some drivetrain 'slack' as dealer called it, when I am accelerating and suddenly take the foot of the accelerator, then accelerate again, then I can make little noise 'slight chunk noise'. As if the chain is getting tighten, loosened and and tightened again. I just got told not to drive like that. I rarely hear the noise anyway if I drive normally.
I am wondering whether this could be due to flywheel in not the best condition... dual mass -> could it create this sort of noise?
My clutch is still good, and I have no plan to upgrade it yet. My next upgrade is likely 20lb kit from ECS, but if I don't need it, I would rather wait till the clutch starts slipping.
Can the flywheel actually get completely damaged and cause more damage?
My car for power wise has: down pipe 3", deleted resonator, REVO 7,6,6 setting (22 peak PSI), Forge 007p, Seat intake, regularly replaced factory air filter
. Made 127kw at wheels without forge / down pipe in summer. I am hoping it's around 140kw at wheels now. I've had 2 track days in the car. Enthusiastic enough to get the car in tripod position in tight corners many times.I am now out of warranty, and getting paranoid... I think I like the car too much! (I've been known to swap cars very often... but I love this car)
Any opinions as to if my flywheel is at fault? thanks in advance.
I hope jmac also can answer this too.
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