New shape Polo GTI info?

[Ralfi]

Anyone know the latest on the new shape 2009 Polo GTI & if/when it's coming to Australia any time soon?

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/22166/2009-volkswagen-polo-first-official-images-revealed-in-lead-up-to-geneva-motor-show/#title

I'm loving the shape, &, if that article's right, the new GTI could come in a 5-door, though I think those photos aren't of the GTI.

Also, any idea of the GTI pricing at all?

[Buller_Scott]

is it just me, or does the thing look ugly in the first shot, like this...

http://dodgechargerspoilersgrilles.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/ag_2007_dodge_caliber_se.jpg

that makes me a sad panda....

[mikepologti]

personally i didnt think it looked to bad.

[Buller_Scott]

i think it will grow on me, as my polo and the mk5 golf did, and im sure the mk6 will too.

but then, im a vw fanboy, so... lol. unavoidable.

[Ralfi]

heh.

I'm really contemplating holding off buying the current shape Polo GTI, if the new one will come out mid-2009 for the same price....?

[mikepologti]

if i were in your shoes i would.

[noone]

Not for me, don't really like the newest Golf either...

Not sure if you got the new 1.4T (GTI) what the tuning capacity would be from a 1.4

Don't think its going to pull an extra 15+ Kw just with an ECU flash to keep up...

Wait and see what the real specs end up being...

[Buller_Scott]

well, for me, when i saw the initial shots of the interior, i was pretty impressed- its NOICE!

the new diesels are commonrail, too! but then, they have a DPF (diesel particulate filter) and my understanding is that these hamper performance mod capabilities.

i think rather than move into the new tdi, i'll just work on my current one (next, suspension. after that, injectors!!!).

that should have me scooting along quite nicely, in my hairdresser's car.

[mikepologti]

true i belive the new polo gti will yield less power from a ecu reflash.

[Buller_Scott]

yeah, is that the deal- smaller capacity turbo engines that are more powerful out of the showroom, but less scope for improvement?

the 1.6lt 66 kw polo tdi sounds awesome from an emissions and fuel consumption standpoint, but i dont see it kicking out 150hp and 330nm with a simple remap, especially not with a DPF.

dont get me wrong, a panoramic sunroof and better handling as a result of it being a bigger car, would be good, but i think i'd prefer mine, to be honest.

found this:

Petrol Engines
1.2-litre 60hp (5-speed manual)
1.2-litre 70hp (5-speed manual)
1.4-litre 85hp (5-spd man or 7-spd DSG)
1.2-litre TSI 105hp (6-speed manual)

Diesel engines:
1.6-litre TDI 75hp (5-speed manual)
1.6-litre TDI 90hp (5-speed manual)

do you gti boys reckon you'd live with sacrificing 45hp straight off the bat? lol.

i like the fact that they're aiming to get more power out of smaller engines- its a good thing. but i think we're all lucky in that our tried and true (in both cases) 1.8t and 1.9tdi engines have a wealth of mods that can make them fast cars (by fast in a diesel context, i mean there are people on the club with mk4 1.9tdi boras with stock turbo, remap, injectors and exhaust, as well as race pipes and egr delete and all the -ectomys etc etc who apparently can keep up with a porsche 911 from 55-130mph. in my books, thats fast). i'll keep mine, thanks. at any rate, if i really wanted a bigger car, like the next gen polo, i'd just trade mine in for a mk5 2.0 tdi and chip it.

[Ralfi]

if i were in your shoes i would.

Oh man. This is a huge spanner in the works.

Need to find info asap.....goes looking.

[pixl]

If I was in your shoes, I'd be looking to get the best possible price for the current model.

Maybe it's because I've been bitten so many times in the past by being an early adopter, but I never buy "Revision A" anymore. And when it comes to a car, even more so. I do NOT want to be running back to the dealer with little issues that they're unable to fix because the simple don't know enough about it yet -- headaches.

As good as it looks (and it does look amazing and I'm sure I'll get one at some point) no one knows at this point how good/bad it is in comparison to the current model. And I don't want to be the guinea pig.

But that's just me.

[Ralfi]

found this:

Petrol Engines
1.2-litre 60hp (5-speed manual)
1.2-litre 70hp (5-speed manual)
1.4-litre 85hp (5-spd man or 7-spd DSG)
1.2-litre TSI 105hp (6-speed manual)

Diesel engines:
1.6-litre TDI 75hp (5-speed manual)
1.6-litre TDI 90hp (5-speed manual)

do you gti boys reckon you'd live with sacrificing 45hp straight off the bat? lol.

Maybe i've misunderstood, but I thought the new Polo GTI was meant to have; (not official info) 134kw as stock via the 1.4, 6-speed TSI (manual)..

http://www.motorauthority.com/first-details-on-next-generation-vw-polo-gti.html

If I was in your shoes, I'd be looking to get the best possible price for the current model.

Maybe it's because I've been bitten so many times in the past by being an early adopter, but I never buy "Revision A" anymore. And when it comes to a car, even more so. I do NOT want to be running back to the dealer with little issues that they're unable to fix because the simple don't know enough about it yet -- headaches.

As good as it looks (and it does look amazing and I'm sure I'll get one at some point) no one knows at this point how good/bad it is in comparison to the current model. And I don't want to be the guinea pig.

But that's just me.

Yeah good points. The improved fuel economy of the new model is probably my most attractive feature, but if it comes with headaches during it's teething period, it won't be worth it + negotiating a bargain will be much harder with the new model.

I have already gotten insurance & service quotes & figured what I want with the current model, so I know what to haggle for & seeing as the current model has had the same RRP for ~3 years & is being replaced this year (maybe not with a new GTI, but the lower models at least), I should be able to knock a bit off the price....


edit...
I've sent VW an email asking for info on the new model. Hope they reply soon..

[pologti18t]

I think you will find there are 145kw/300nm reflashes available for the 1.4L TSI engine.

[noone]

I think you will find there are 145kw/300nm reflashes available for the 1.4L TSI engine.

Already? The car isn't confirmed yet is it?

Or is this same engine used in other VAG models?