Suspension question

[mozzzy_2000]

I was wondering if the Gti can be lowered on the existing suspension or do you need a whole new setup or new springs?
Also does lowering improving handling like cornering or is purely for looks?
Cheers

[Ben_GTI]

I got Bilstiens and H+R springs. It lowers it, but handling is fantastic.

I wouldn't recommend you change springs without changing shocks... you have to pull it all out anyway, you might as well do the full job instead of a half assed one.

[Whubbsie]

I got Bilstiens and H+R springs. It lowers it, but handling is fantastic.

I wouldn't recommend you change springs without changing shocks... you have to pull it all out anyway, you might as well do the full job instead of a half assed one.

thats if you have the money to do it all at the same time you can just run lowering springs, fair few on here have H&R ones me included not installed yet though.

only thing is your shocks will go sooner than with stock springs so eventually you'll have to buy new ones to suit the lowering springs, then there is the whole school of people that say it will be fine and they won't go sooner.

So decided what you want to belive and go from there

[mozzzy_2000]

Yeah cheers. My car has only done 9400Kms so do you reckon the shocks are still pretty 'new'?

I've already noticed, when I just took her for a quick fang around the block, that on quick acceleration it really squats down at the rear and the whole front lifts up. That was a really strange sensation first time as it planted my back firmly into the seat. I imagine a new shock setup would help to eliminate that from occuring?

[Whubbsie]

Yeah cheers. My car has only done 9400Kms so do you reckon the shocks are still pretty 'new'?

I've already noticed, when I just took her for a quick fang around the block, that on quick acceleration it really squats down at the rear and the whole front lifts up. That was a really strange sensation first time as it planted my back firmly into the seat. I imagine a new shock setup would help to eliminate that from occuring?

I love that surge why would you want to get rid of it!!??

I think stiffer suspension can help, but smoothing out the power delivery will help aswell so a TIP, new air filter... and heres were we reach the limits of my knowledge sorry dude sure someone else can pipe up and help somemore.

or search for "suspension" on here you'll get a fair few hits.

[Ben_GTI]

My brother put Eibach Pro springs on his E30 with stock shocks.

In his own words, "Your cars is F***ing amazing, I need half decent shocks."

Sort out your finance, but to change the springs is the same amount of work as changing the shocks and the springs. If you do it yourself, no probs, but if you are paying someone??

[Whubbsie]

My brother put Eibach Pro springs on his E30 with stock shocks.

In his own words, "Your cars is F***ing amazing, I need half decent shocks."

Sort out your finance, but to change the springs is the same amount of work as changing the shocks and the springs. If you do it yourself, no probs, but if you are paying someone??

yeah wasn't questioning that doing both at the same time is better, it is and should be the way you do it, but on tight budget and lots of eagerness you can go springs now and start saving by the time the shocks go you'll have enough for decent shocks too....

[mozzzy_2000]

yeah wasn't questioning that doing both at the same time is better, it is and should be the way you do it, but on tight budget and lots of eagerness you can go springs now and start saving by the time the shocks go you'll have enough for decent shocks too....

And

I love that surge why would you want to get rid of it!!??

Yeah limited budget does not help. Man If I had an endless stream of cash I'd go the whole hog and get new suspension, swaybars, FMIC, new rims & tyres etc etc. But yeah one bit at a time is about as good as its gonna get at the moment.

And yeah that surge was pretty dramatic but I would've thought that that sorta lunge would be counterproductive and if I had better suspension that surge would get planted down on the ground where you want all that power to go. But perhaps I am looking at wrongly?

You guys using K&N filters? OEM or High flow?

[Quest]

Matt - Be careful not to start a new thread talking about air filters in this one....

I have made a lot of research about suspension options...
And it seems that H&R and Eibach springs are really appreciated if you don't have enough money to go ahead with a combo directly.

But the best thing to ask to you is what do you really need ?
Springs, combo, coilovers...
Read this especially the #7 posted by GT3. I think he's right on giving answers to this suspension question.

I opted for a Bilstein shocks and H&R springs combo but i can't tell you more as i don't have them fit yet. But all guys over here say that this combo is nothing else than HAPPINESS !!
Moreover, GT3 is a good supplier of Bilsteins at a very good price.

[Kiel_GTI]

And



Yeah limited budget does not help. Man If I had an endless stream of cash I'd go the whole hog and get new suspension, swaybars, FMIC, new rims & tyres etc etc. But yeah one bit at a time is about as good as its gonna get at the moment.

And yeah that surge was pretty dramatic but I would've thought that that sorta lunge would be counterproductive and if I had better suspension that surge would get planted down on the ground where you want all that power to go. But perhaps I am looking at wrongly?

You guys using K&N filters? OEM or High flow?

if u had endless cash u;d just buy a golf GTI

[DaveMack]

I've got the Eibach Pro springs & standard shocks (I know ...) ... at the moment I'm in the market for either a set of good shocks or a set of (affordable) coilovers. I find the Eibachs have made a significant handling improvement ... but I'd still prefer to get some good shocks to go with them.

Will be following this thread with interest.

Dave

[Buller_Scott]

I've got the Eibach Pro springs & standard shocks (I know ...) ... at the moment I'm in the market for either a set of good shocks or a set of (affordable) coilovers. I find the Eibachs have made a significant handling improvement ... but I'd still prefer to get some good shocks to go with them.

Will be following this thread with interest.

Dave

in what way did it improve handling over stock? have you noticed less body roll (copious amounts of that in the tdi setup)?

do you also have the rsb?

[DaveMack]

in what way did it improve handling over stock? have you noticed less body roll (copious amounts of that in the tdi setup)?

do you also have the rsb?

Yep I have the RSB as well and the body roll wasn't too bad on the GTI before, but it corners very flat now ... without being significantly harder to live with comfort-wise.

Dave

[Chipped]

if u had endless cash u;d just buy a golf GTI

This is what I used to think till I realised how much heavier the Golf GTi is

[mozzzy_2000]

Yeah I was actually considering trading in for golf GTi before investigating chipping but after finding out the power gains to be had and now they fact that its been done I am sticking with this little beauty for sure! This Polo Gti is basically where the previous Golf MKIV left off as the MkV golf is now bigger and heavier and I beleive this polo is more fun to drive, but having said that I haven;t taken a golf for spin as yet.
For my needs I really don't have the needs of a larger car. I dont even think I have had anyone in the back seat of my polo yet either! lol

Now back to suspension do you reckon the way the car lifts up and squats down at the back is a good thing or not? Personally I would have thought that you are not getting the power down to the front wheels as efficiently as if its flatter. Thoughts?