Awaiting delivery of a Polo GTI - Few Questions

[Poochy]

Hey all

I am currently awaiting delivery of a 5dr Reflex Silver, Polo GTI - Bi Xenons, Tinted Windows, Climatronic, Multifunction Steering Wheel (on a ship at present), so hopefully within the next few weeks I should have it.

*** I have read the numerous threads about the rattling, oil issues and dsg problems ***

Quick background on my cars;

First car was a Green Vauxhall Corsa 1.4i - 50hp - Died due to rust

Second car was a Red MK4 Seat Ibiza FR 1.9TDi - 128hp, 229lbs - Died due to someone ramming into the back of me after 6 months of ownership

Third and present car is a Black MK4 Seat Ibiza CUPRA 1.9TDi - 157hp, 243lbs - Currently remapped to Stage1; 207hp, 315lbs

I'm currently planning on moving closer to work in the next few years and getting on the property ladder, which will help cut my mileage from 18,000 miles (29000km) a year down, I've decided to treat myself to a Polo GTI. I currently get around 350-400 miles per 40ltrs (45ltr tank) so I'm hoping the GTI won't be too much lower.

*** I've not driven the Polo GTI, only a 6speed Golf 122hp (I'm assuming that's the wet clutch). Oh and I've also had a track day in a Nissan GTR ***

Few questions I have;

1. In stop/start traffic on a flat, do you switch to neutral to D/S all the time? or just leave it in D/S? - The reason I ask this, I've read that it can effect your dsg box if left in D/S and just stopping/going (something todo with the oil turning in it :s/It stays on a constant bite, although I don't believe that). Obviously if stuck at a traffic light, there would be no harm in going into neutral, but for stop/start traffic, I can see it being annoying (although if it protects the dsg then needs must).

2. In stop/start traffic on a hill, same as above?

3. How many revs do you take it up to in manual mode? (I know there is a red line, but just asking for peoples driving styles/get the most out of the hp) - Currently in my diesel I know to floor it from 2,500 to 4,500 for power drops. I'm assuming its around 6,200?

Hopefully I won't be slated and told to use the search function (I did, but didn't help)


Thanks all

[nomadx38]

No need to put it in neutral with the 7sp dry clutch DSG as the clutch is applied electronically and stays disengaged while the brake is on. I have noticed though on the 6sp wet clutch putting it in neural releases pressure off the hydraulic system so there could be some truth to that.

Redline is at 6200 at which point the DSG will shift up automatically. Other than that there is power pretty much all through the rev range

[ill0gitech]

Congrats on the purchase!
The only thing I can add is that I'm pretty sure the hill-assist feature requires you to be in gear

[444YYY]

Congrats on the purchase!
The only thing I can add is that I'm pretty sure the hill-assist feature requires you to be in gear

+1.... On a hill, u need to be in D,S or tiptronic for the hill assist to work.

[nomadx38]

Or Reverse haha.

Anything other than N will have some form of brake. R, D, M and S have the hill assist and P has the mechanical gearbox lock.

[Poochy]

Thanks for the reply's guys. Found out on the internet tracker today that's it's reached the UK port, so hopefully in next 2 weeks I'll have it, I assume. Not heard off VW.

Another silly question, which I think I know the answer but just checking. When changing gear in manual mode, you are not required to take your foot off the accelerator, correct? (same as any other mode)

[Poochy]

What temp should oil be up, before taking it up to the limiter? Obviously water should be 90c, but how much for oil? 80+?

[GTI JOE]

Thanks for the reply's guys. Found out on the internet tracker today that's it's reached the UK port, so hopefully in next 2 weeks I'll have it, I assume. Not heard off VW.

Another silly question, which I think I know the answer but just checking. When changing gear in manual mode, you are not required to take your foot off the accelerator, correct? (same as any other mode)

Yeah, no need to take your foot off the accelerator.

What temp should oil be up, before taking it up to the limiter? Obviously water should be 90c, but how much for oil? 80+?

Oil temp should be around 90c...... then punch it to the max

[wai]

As has been mentioned, when you come to a stop in traffic, you need to keep your foot on the brake as this causes the clutch to disengage. When you release the foot brake, there is roughly a 1/4 second delay before the clutch starts engaging. As a result, if you have your foot off the brake and the hand brake set with the DSG in drive, the clutch will keep trying to engage and as a result, will drag and overheat.

Reversing (particularly up hill) can be an issue. This is because the clutch for reverse starts engaging almost 1 second after your foot comes off the brake. Your normal reaction is to apply more accelerator, only when the clutch does engage, you are launched backwards. You jump on the foot brake and it starts all over again.

You cannot ride the foot brake as the VW's have a Brake Throttle Override (BTO). When you press the foot brake, the throttle/accelerator is overridden. This is because the accelerator is fully electronic. There is no mechanical connection from the accelerator pedal to the engine. To ensure safety, the accelerator function is disabled as soon as the foot brake is applied.

The best way I have found is to use the handbrake (does require a conventional handbrake - not sure if yours will have one), and release it a fraction of a second after you come off the foot brake. This is no different to doing a hill start in a 3 pedal manual transmission. You get used to it.

There are two types of hill assist. One is hill start assist where the foot brake will be held for up to 3 minutes after you take your foot off the brake. When you apply accelerator, the brake is released gradually. With hill hold assist, the hold time is 3 seconds, and the brake is released as soon as accelerator position change is detected. To find out if hill hold is active, when you come to a stop on a slope, the pedal will become rock hard when you gently pump it. If the pedal does not come up rock hard and you notice the revs drop fractionally, hill hold will not be active.

[Poochy]

Yeah, no need to take your foot off the accelerator.



Oil temp should be around 90c...... then punch it to the max

Lovely

As has been mentioned, when you come to a stop in traffic, you need to keep your foot on the brake as this causes the clutch to disengage. When you release the foot brake, there is roughly a 1/4 second delay before the clutch starts engaging. As a result, if you have your foot off the brake and the hand brake set with the DSG in drive, the clutch will keep trying to engage and as a result, will drag and overheat.

Reversing (particularly up hill) can be an issue. This is because the clutch for reverse starts engaging almost 1 second after your foot comes off the brake. Your normal reaction is to apply more accelerator, only when the clutch does engage, you are launched backwards. You jump on the foot brake and it starts all over again.

You cannot ride the foot brake as the VW's have a Brake Throttle Override (BTO). When you press the foot brake, the throttle/accelerator is overridden. This is because the accelerator is fully electronic. There is no mechanical connection from the accelerator pedal to the engine. To ensure safety, the accelerator function is disabled as soon as the foot brake is applied.

The best way I have found is to use the handbrake (does require a conventional handbrake - not sure if yours will have one), and release it a fraction of a second after you come off the foot brake. This is no different to doing a hill start in a 3 pedal manual transmission. You get used to it.

There are two types of hill assist. One is hill start assist where the foot brake will be held for up to 3 minutes after you take your foot off the brake. When you apply accelerator, the brake is released gradually. With hill hold assist, the hold time is 3 seconds, and the brake is released as soon as accelerator position change is detected. To find out if hill hold is active, when you come to a stop on a slope, the pedal will become rock hard when you gently pump it. If the pedal does not come up rock hard and you notice the revs drop fractionally, hill hold will not be active.

Thanks for that explanation, makes good sense and very informative


Just remembered another question, lol. When do you need to press in the button on the gear stick? - when moving in and out of reverse, park? So moving into neutral, d, s, manual, there is no requirement to press the button in?

[wai]

Just remembered another question, lol. When do you need to press in the button on the gear stick? - when moving in and out of reverse, park? So moving into neutral, d, s, manual, there is no requirement to press the button in?

You will need to press the button to come out of Park, and to go from Neutral to Reverse, and from Drive to Sport. You do not need to press the button to go into and out of manual mode. Basically, if the shifter does not want to move, first press the button and see if that helps. If not then there could be other things like what follows. Above all, don't force anything. If it does not want to move there is a reason.

Also, in keeping with electronic control, the transmission has to be in Park before you turn the ignition key right off to remove it. If you did not have the transmission in Park when you tried to move the key right off to remove it, you will have to turn it back to the On position, put the transmission in Park and then turn the ignition right off to remove the key.

If the key has been removed and you bump the steering wheel so as to activate the steering lock, you will not be able to turn the ignition key. Don't force it otherwise you can break the key. Try and turn the steering wheel either way and you will then be able to turn the ignition key.

[Poochy]

You will need to press the button to come out of Park, and to go from Neutral to Reverse, and from Drive to Sport. You do not need to press the button to go into and out of manual mode. Basically, if the shifter does not want to move, first press the button and see if that helps. If not then there could be other things like what follows. Above all, don't force anything. If it does not want to move there is a reason.

Also, in keeping with electronic control, the transmission has to be in Park before you turn the ignition key right off to remove it. If you did not have the transmission in Park when you tried to move the key right off to remove it, you will have to turn it back to the On position, put the transmission in Park and then turn the ignition right off to remove the key.

If the key has been removed and you bump the steering wheel so as to activate the steering lock, you will not be able to turn the ignition key. Don't force it otherwise you can break the key. Try and turn the steering wheel either way and you will then be able to turn the ignition key.

Thank you wai, very helpful . Can't wait to pick it up, I've got a nice 25mile journey from garage to home, mainly dual carriageways and motors, but still nice little run in

[gavs]

Awaiting delivery of a Polo GTI - Few Questions

Just remembered another question, lol. When do you need to press in the button on the gear stick?

When you can't move the stick with your foot on the brake

Which as wai said all non-forward motion gears

[Poochy]

When you can't move the stick with your foot on the brake

Which as wai said all non-forward motion gears

I think excitement got the best of me, I could of worked that question on the day but hey ho lol. Going down to take a sneaky look now and choose number plate

[Poochy]

Well went to see the car and it turns out, they've re-added cruise control and parking sensors as standard. So I'm glad I didn't choose them as extras.